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Posted: 22 December 2008 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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the different sect of saivas are Vadamas,Brihatcharanam,Vathimars, Ashtasahasram,Choliyas,Gurukkal...and there's even more subsets of those listed and a few more. w/their own subsets. very confusing
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Posted: 22 December 2008 02:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Hmmm...this has turned into a very educational thread...continue on about the origins of the Rasta religion...
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Posted: 22 December 2008 06:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Rastafarians! A bunch of dirty and mostly lazy people hiding behind religion to smoke marajuana! The ideals of the movement are clearly different from what we see today. Besides artists like Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, etc... tell me one of those Rastafarians who could make a name for himself! Just nasty, dirty and lazy black people going nowhere!
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Posted: 23 December 2008 12:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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kathy - 21 December 2008 10:49 PM
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LilHomie2020 - 21 December 2008 09:50 PM
I did not know Selassie went to Haiti.

Have you ever wondered why the road to the airport is called "Avenue Hailé Sélassié"?
The first Mercedes-Benz limo Duvalier had was a gift from Hailé Sélassé!


Mmmmm...interesting to know...thanks for that little piece of information...

You're welcome! Always a pleasure to educate you! Menm si se kakakalbas ki nan zokokolo'w!
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Posted: 23 December 2008 01:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Out Before 2009 - 23 December 2008 12:38 AM
kathy - 21 December 2008 10:49 PM
???????????? - 21 December 2008 09:58 PM
LilHomie2020 - 21 December 2008 09:50 PM
I did not know Selassie went to Haiti.

Have you ever wondered why the road to the airport is called "Avenue Hailé Sélassié"?
The first Mercedes-Benz limo Duvalier had was a gift from Hailé Sélassé!


Mmmmm...interesting to know...thanks for that little piece of information...

You're welcome! Always a pleasure to educate you! Menm si se kakakalbas ki nan zokokolo'w!


I'll let that pass since you will be leaving in a few days...
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Posted: 25 December 2008 10:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Haitian101 - 22 December 2008 11:32 AM
I tried to understand the Rastafarian religion, but its kind of complicated to me. I like the dedication the followers have but I hate the big nasty dred that look like they never met water and the nasty beard, (li fe yo sanble yon pa-ket bom).

I hate to say, but lots of Rastafarians have absolutely no idea what the religion is all about.
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There are many rastafarians who drink, eat meat, and indulge in material wealth. Rastafarians introduced marijuana into their religious rites because they consider it the "weed of wisdom," and because they believe it contains healing ingredients. Funny pic.
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Posted: 27 December 2008 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Haitian101 - 22 December 2008 11:32 AM
I tried to understand the Rastafarian religion, but its kind of complicated to me. I like the dedication the followers have but I hate the big nasty dred that look like they never met water and the nasty beard, (li fe yo sanble yon pa-ket bom).

I hate to say, but lots of Rastafarians have absolutely no idea what the religion is all about.
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Posted: 27 December 2008 08:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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kathy - 21 December 2008 08:37 PM
Selassie's Caribbean voyage
By Patricia Meschino

Many Rastafarian and Jamaican historians have detailed the four days Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie spent in Jamaica. However, those accounts have often excluded any information on his travels to two other countries on his Caribbean voyage: Trinidad and Tobago and Haiti, just 100 miles east of Jamaica. His Majesty's one-day visit to Haiti has been the least chronicled aspect of his Caribbean excursion and the scant documentation that exists is primarily written in Creole or Kreyol, Haiti's national language.

The Emperor departed Montego Bay on April 24, 1966 for Haiti, a small country located in the western third of Hispaniola, which Haiti shares with the Dominican Republic. Formerly a French colony called Saint Dominique (or San Domingo), Haiti was also referred to as the "Pearl De Antilles" because it was at one time the richest colony in the new world exporting sugar, cotton and coffee in quantities that surpassed the total amount of exports from other Caribbean islands. The vast production of these crops, however, was dependent on a labor force of slaves who worked under the most oppressive conditions.

In August 1791, inspired by the Jacobin Revolution in France, where the white slaves joined forces and killed their masters, enslaved Africans in Saint Dominique, led by Toussaint L'Ouverture, revolted in a struggle that lasted for twelve years. The slave army won a series of victories, defeating the local whites, French soldiers, a Spanish invasion, a 60,000 strong British expedition and Napolean's smaller army. L'Ouverture went on to control the island in 1801 but he was captured by French troops in August 1802 and died six months later. Despite L'Ouverture's death, the slaves triumphed: they drove the French out and in 1804 Haiti became the first free Black republic in the western hemisphere, an event often cited as among the most important in Caribbean history.

France, however, demanded payment of 150 million francs for Haiti to be recognized as an independent nation, which strained the burgeoning republic's resources. Moreover, the rest of the world ostracized Haiti, which further constrained her ability to trade and build a stable economy. By the end of the 19th Century, 80% of Haiti's national budget was depleted as a result of her ongoing debt to France. In more recent times, the dictatorships of François "Papa Doc" Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier pillaged the country's limited resources, further exacerbating Haiti's dire economic situation.

Despite Haiti's financial hardships, Papa Doc Duvalier was determined to give Haile Selassie a proper reception on his one-day visit. The Duvalier government delved into its depleted treasury and came up with $100,000 which was used to place flagpoles along the two-mile stretch of road from the airport to the capital Port-au-Prince. Colorful flags waved throughout the city and fresh concrete was poured along part of the route so that the Emperor would not be overwhelmed by dust. The apex of His Majesty's hectic visit was the naming of the recently completed airport road as "Boulevard Haile Selassie" which has since been expanded into a four-lane highway.

In addition to meeting with government officials and attending various functions, His Majesty also visited a Haitian school. In 1966 Maire Maignan was a student at Lycee Francois Duvalier in Petion-ville, a Port Au Prince suburb, and she recalls the Emperor's arrival. "The school director announced that he would be there during the day and that we would meet him and they explained to us who he was," Maignan reminisces. "Our secondary school had six years and there were four classes in each year and they made sure to put him somewhere so every child could shake his hand. It was a huge crowd. I remember he was wearing a dark green military suit with a lot of badges; we wanted to touch the badges but we couldn't. It was very moving, a once in a lifetime thing that you will never forget, that is the way he was presented to us. We knew it was a special day but we didn't document it."

Maignan's son, Anthony S. Calypso is a New York based writer and although he wasn't born at the time of Selassie's visit, he feels the Emperor's trip didn't have too much of an impact on the Haitian people. However, the popularity of Bob Marley music just a few years later throughout Haiti placed Selassie's visit into a broader
cultural, although not necessarily religious, context. "Although Bob Marley never visited Haiti, his influence there was phenomenal," Calypso explains. "Haitians speak Creole not English yet they can sing Marley's songs. People began to wear dreadlocks because of Marley; they embraced him, but not necessarily Rastafari. Because Catholicism is so deeply ingrained in Haiti due to the French colonization, they didn't worship Haile Selassie the way (Jamaican) Rastafarians do so his visit didn't have that component to it. Haiti's intellectual class was probably most affected by his visit although I am sure people knew that as an African monarch he represented something very important to people across the Diaspora."



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Fascinating article Kathy cool smile
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Posted: 28 December 2008 02:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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I don't know how many members are here in the Northeaster part of the states but it saddens me when i walk the streets of NY and see a dread with a white woman.
I had a college roomate who's mom was Bob Marley's cook, a "true rasta" who is now married to a caucasian guy out somewhere in long island. He himself, after being with so many caucasian women, settled down with a brazilian chick.
I am all for Marcus's Garvey's teachings.......we all can apply it here as far as resettling back home in Haiti.
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Posted: 29 December 2008 03:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Haitian101 - 22 December 2008 11:32 AM
I tried to understand the Rastafarian religion, but its kind of complicated to me. I like the dedication the followers have but I hate the big nasty dred that look like they never met water and the nasty beard, (li fe yo sanble yon pa-ket bom).

I hate to say, but lots of Rastafarians have absolutely no idea what the religion is all about.
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I can tell that he got a good hit!
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Posted: 29 December 2008 03:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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HQueen - 22 December 2008 12:18 PM
Bunch of confused people around here...

I respect anyone's right to follow any religion they choose. But, zipper . Anyway, Rastas like to promote that their religion is all about Africa, and the whole movement is based on Afro-centric grounds. Funny, but I can think of a non-African devoutly religious sub-group that has existed for thousands of years; symbolizes renounciation, liberation and rejection of society's norms; wears their hair in dreadlocks and don't cut their beards;, smoke cannabis for religious purposes and claim they are closer to God and can see his presence when they do it; rejects materialism and possession; typically don't eat meat and their diet is restricted as fasting is a form of religious practice. Hmmm, seems like heavy borrowing to me.



Anyone can guess who they are? No cheating....


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Now that's just nasty, especially the last pic!...they need to visit their local barbershop...you just don't know what's been crawling in there!!!!
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