WhiteMan - 04 May 2009 07:23 AM

I've been to both the Dominican Republic and Haiti, but despite the posturing and name calling, Dominicans can be just as evil, violent, sadistic, and brutal as Haitians. Sometimes more so, since many think they are owed something.

I GUESS YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDE WHITE AMERICANS. THEY HAVE A MORE VIOLENT HISTORY THAN ANY OTHER GROUP. AM I RIGHT???????? Look at you bringing back that Hoax. Have some shame.

Le député de Jacmel, Patrick Domond ne comprend pas comportement du peuple dominicain, qui pourtant n'est pas un peuple barbare. Il s'interroge sur le type d'éducation que les dominicains veulent inculquer aux adolescents qui filmaient la scène de décapitation.
Qualifiant d'insuffisantes les déclarations de condamnation de ce crime, le député de Jacmel croit que le gouvernement haïtien doit adopter des dispositions urgentes pour éviter la perpétration d'autres atrocités. Patrick Domond estime que le rapatriement des ressortissants haïtiens est préférable à des décapitations en territoire dominicain. Nos compatriotes fuient la misère mais on les traite comme des animaux, se plaint le parlementaire. De son coté, le député de Chantal- Torbeck, Guy Gérard Georges, déclare que le gouvernement doit envisager de rappeler son ambassadeur pour exprimer sa colère. Il craint que ce crime n'ouvre la voie à d'autres décapitations qui pourraient déboucher sur de nouveaux massacres d'haïtiens. La décapitation d'un haïtien et la réaction du gouvernement devrait être abordé lors de la conférence des présidents de commission de la chambre basse. Pour le député de Cabaret, Valciné Pierre Jerome, l'assassinat d'un ressortissant haïtien est le signal d'un complot ourdi par l'extrême droite dominicain avec l'appui du gouvernement Fernandez. Il inscrit ce crime dans le cadre d'un complot international contre Haïti et espère que les différents secteurs de la société haïtienne saisiront l'occasion pour réaliser une entente nationale. Selon le député de Cabaret, les élus devraient se pencher uniquement su ce dossier afin de proposer des réactions au gouvernement. notes par Helene Mondesir

ayidowedohounon - 04 May 2009 11:27 AM

I do not know how to refer to this Haitian/Dominican problem you all are having. Isn't everybody black?

::Mambo Racine bangs head on keyboard while laughing hysterically::

NO, Ayido, everyone is not black. Most Haitians are, most Dominicans do not consider themselves "black".

Extra-judicial executions are not a good idea, they increase the level of violence in a society and they desensitize the members of that society to atrocious violence.

HOWEVER - I am betting that the Dominican who was murdered was known to his community, likewise the murderer. The people who killed the murderer might have even been the Dominican victim's friends and family. That doesn't make it okay! But... I can understand. NOT excuse, but understand.

Helene - 05 May 2009 09:51 AM

Le député de Jacmel, Patrick Domond ne comprend pas comportement du peuple dominicain, qui pourtant n'est pas un peuple barbare. Il s'interroge sur le type d'éducation que les dominicains veulent inculquer aux adolescents qui filmaient la scène de décapitation.
Qualifiant d'insuffisantes les déclarations de condamnation de ce crime, le député de Jacmel croit que le gouvernement haïtien doit adopter des dispositions urgentes pour éviter la perpétration d'autres atrocités. Patrick Domond estime que le rapatriement des ressortissants haïtiens est préférable à des décapitations en territoire dominicain. Nos compatriotes fuient la misère mais on les traite comme des animaux, se plaint le parlementaire. De son coté, le député de Chantal- Torbeck, Guy Gérard Georges, déclare que le gouvernement doit envisager de rappeler son ambassadeur pour exprimer sa colère. Il craint que ce crime n'ouvre la voie à d'autres décapitations qui pourraient déboucher sur de nouveaux massacres d'haïtiens. La décapitation d'un haïtien et la réaction du gouvernement devrait être abordé lors de la conférence des présidents de commission de la chambre basse. Pour le député de Cabaret, Valciné Pierre Jerome, l'assassinat d'un ressortissant haïtien est le signal d'un complot ourdi par l'extrême droite dominicain avec l'appui du gouvernement Fernandez. Il inscrit ce crime dans le cadre d'un complot international contre Haïti et espère que les différents secteurs de la société haïtienne saisiront l'occasion pour réaliser une entente nationale. Selon le député de Cabaret, les élus devraient se pencher uniquement su ce dossier afin de proposer des réactions au gouvernement. notes par Helene Mondesir

This congressman must be an idiot. He takes a tragic personal dispute and atributes the horror to the Dominican people. What about control illegal migration and facilitating the return of 2 million Haitians living in DR so that they could be safe in Haiti? Haitians are making a mess with this issue. Let me remind you, the first person beheaded as DOMINICAN, Dominican just reacted. Can't justified, but I undestand. What are the measures that Haiti will take? Will the depute send the chemiers to kill Dominicans. We all need to stop and talk seriously about the roots of the problem.

Erick,

I knew it would not take you long before you made this into a Haitian vs Dominican and how DR is being invaded by Haitians. I agree that the Haitian government should find out what happen on both sides. But the word on the street is he Carlos Nerilus(not just a Haitian) was decapitated because he was associated with the criminal that happen to be Haitian that killed the Dominican national, De Leon.
How can you understand this type of behavior? I guess we should kill all Dominicans for the array of rapist,drug dealers and other crooks that have walked the street of X country. Well, you are a campesino so these behaviors are normal for you. On another note, this has struck a nerve. I have so many friends calling me and sending me email with the guys head off. I even called DR and got the info. Some people didn’t even hear about this. But this is the thing that might explode and all war breaks out on Hispaniola. Personally, I think this is sad that human beings act in such barbaric behavior. Are u ready for a Kosovo on the island of Hispaniola?

Moreno - 05 May 2009 03:16 PM

Erick,

I knew it would not take you long before you made this into a Haitian vs Dominican and how DR is being invaded by Haitians. I agree that the Haitian government should find out what happen on both sides. But the word on the street is he Carlos Nerilus(not just a Haitian) was decapitated because he was associated with the criminal that happen to be Haitian that killed the Dominican national, De Leon.
How can you understand this type of behavior? I guess we should kill all Dominicans for the array of rapist,drug dealers and other crooks that have walked the street of X country. Well, you are a campesino so these behaviors are normal for you. On another note, this has struck a nerve. I have so many friends calling me and sending me email with the guys head off. I even called DR and got the info. Some people didn’t even hear about this. But this is the thing that might explode and all war breaks out on Hispaniola. Personally, I think this is sad that human beings act in such barbaric behavior. Are u ready for a Kosovo on the island of Hispaniola?

The Haitian government has a right to find out what happens west of the border. We don't have to reply to anyone, except the Dominican people who have a history solving problems through peaceful means, but always ready for the next fight.
1. Why are Haitians making this drama when the beheadings were initiated by a Haitians. Dominican did what they did as a reaction. So, whose barbarism do you want to discuss?

2. No one said kill all of the Haitians. For God sakes. I said send them home and avoid further problems. We simply don't have conditions to deal with the consequences of this migration. My position again: Total, quick and effective massive deportation to Haiti of all illegal Haitians, including their DR born relatives.

3. All Dominican are rejecting the beheading. The killing is not acceptable but the corrupt government headed by Leonel Fernandez is only concern with stealing money, not with law and order.

4. Why do you refuse to see the truth? When we were in our respective spaces things were much better. But you continue to send thousands of Haitians every single day and Dominicans are being forced to take the matter in their own hands. In a sector of Santiago, the neighbors got together and decided not to rent houses to Haitians, the Haitians who lived there were asked to move and problems betweent the two groups stop. This model could be applied nationality. But this government refuses to apply the law. I blame Leonel fo the deaths of the two individuals. No Haitians in DR, better relations with Haiti. Just simple.

dont like DR they aint sh*t to me i dont know why haitian go there anyway, that just make em think they better than us once again bi**hes aint sh*t to a nigga

Port-au-Prince, May 4, 2009 (EFE via COMTEX) -- Haiti's foreign minister condemned on Monday the decapitation of a Haitian national in the neighboring Dominican Republic.

The killing was "barbarous," Alrich Nicolas told Efe.

Dominican media reported that a Haitian man was beheaded last Friday in the Santo Domingo neighborhood of Buenos Aires as a crowd watched and applauded.

Some of those present apparently used their cell phones to film the gruesome execution.

Nicolas said that Haiti's embassy in Santo Domingo delivered an official protest to Dominican authorities.

The slaying of the Haitian man was in reprisal for the previous day's beheading of Dominican Leon Lara in another part of Santo Domingo.

The Haitian national accused of that crime remains at large.

"This situation tends to propitiate a climate of tension that could hurt relations between the two countries," Nicolas said, while also condemning Lara's murder.

The Haitian foreign minister asked Dominican police and courts to "assume their responsibilities," and urged his compatriots in the neighboring country to avoid confrontations and to refrain from taking justice into their own hands.



Dominican officials estimate that around 1 million Haitians live in the country, most of them illegal immigrants who work in agriculture and construction.

The Dominican Republic and Haiti share the Caribbean island of Hispaniola, with Haiti in the western portion. Though both countries are poor, Haiti is destitute, and Haitians cross the border to do work that many Dominicans will not do, such as harvesting sugar cane.

Haitians have been the target of mob violence numerous times in recent years, and the Dominican government has been widely criticized for its treatment of the migrants. EFE

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2009/05/04/4162980.htm

koyaloa - 05 May 2009 11:51 PM

The slaying of the Haitian man was in reprisal for the previous day's beheading of Dominican Leon Lara in another part of Santo Domingo.

The Haitian national accused of that crime remains at large.

Okay, wait a minnit! I thought the Haitian was killed because HE, he personally, killed the Dominican.

If he's not the killer, why was he chosen to be the victim of a mob execution?

Mambo Racine - 06 May 2009 09:21 AM

If he's not the killer, why was he chosen to be the victim of a mob execution?

Beacuse he's the killer's brother. They couldn't find the killer, so they got the next best thing. Those barbaric dominican bastards!

NegNwe - 06 May 2009 09:29 AM

...he's the killer's brother. They couldn't find the killer, so they got the next best thing. Those barbaric dominican bastards!

You mean like those barbaric Haitian bastards who wanted to kill Roger Lafontant's mother after Lafontant's abortive coup against Aristide? Or like those barbaric Haitian bastards who arrest the family members of people they want, when they can't find the person they want to arrest?

Let me quickly disclaim - I do NOT think that Haitians are "barbaric bastards", I am simply using your term in an ironic sense.