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Posted: 04 July 2009 09:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 61 ]
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My mistake, I thought only skin color was your only factor of claiming he hated being black.

In any case, it sure was a psychological illness to go to that extreme of a makeover of oneself.
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Posted: 04 July 2009 11:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 62 ]
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fantasma - 04 July 2009 10:13 AM
Jesus Christ - 04 July 2009 10:09 AM
We are discovering other manifestations of the illness with every post....here's one more.

A dislike so harsh that one would hire or rape a PANYOL (prostitute) to breed and then dispose of her...leaving one with Sons of Bitches...( I think poor dark skinned Haitian pimps started that trend)


you are so much better than that.


I read every post in this topic up to this point and a bit beyond. A good topic started to go astray, I feel the SOB deserved every bit of what he got. He decided to go forth and...

Now let us have a little talk with Jesus.
Let us tell Him all about our troubles.
He will hear our faintest cry
And He will answer by and by.

EVERYTIME: THANK YOU JESUS!

Now back to the posts.

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Posted: 04 July 2009 11:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 63 ]
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I have read every post including the one preceding this one. Excepting minor digressions as that by the Dumbinikan and notably when not focusing on MJ, there is a lot here. I got no answers. I am walking away with many more questions. Moreover, I have just returned to my home from a family gathering and my AA wife just finished telling me how she experienced those same self loathing sentiments from two of my sisters. This is a disease the world over.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 12:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 64 ]
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Papaille - 04 July 2009 11:50 PM
I have read every post including the one preceding this one. Excepting minor digressions as that by the Dumbinikan and notably when not focusing on MJ, there is a lot here. I got no answers. I am walking away with many more questions. Moreover, I have just returned to my home from a family gathering and my AA wife just finished telling me how she experienced those same self loathing sentiments from two of my sisters. This is a disease the world over.




ROFLMAO LOL
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Posted: 05 July 2009 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 65 ]
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I ma not MJ expert, but I would like to say this regarding the fact that his kids do
not look mixed. Well there is a family that I know for quite some years (1993).
my friend Suzie, her mother Julie and her grandmother Mary. Mary is Haitian
and Had Julie with an Haitian dude. Later one she remarried a french canadian dude.
Julie, Suzie and Marie all lived with the French Canadian dude and another french canadian
girl named Sophie. Sophie was the French canadian's dude's daughter. Like her father
she is vety fair skinned, grey eyes, straight black hair, freckles and behave and talk just
like ordinary French Canadian.

Let folks, only recently (Thursday) that I learned that Sophie's mother is not French Canadian
but Mary, the same haitian lady above. Sophie just look straight white, there is nothing that
could tell that she is hald black. Mind you Mary is not a lightskin or anything like that.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 08:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 66 ]
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The condition is called "self hate" and many blacks especially blacks in third world countries suffer from it.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 08:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 67 ]
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cotigosum - 05 July 2009 08:27 AM
The condition is called "self hate" and many blacks especially blacks in third world countries suffer from it.


I have a different reading on this. You are ignoring the context in which some of the Jacksons did their physical transformation. They simply decided to follow a western model of beautification and that's totally acceptable. If a black person tries to acquire characteristics common among whites you call it self-hated. By let me paraphrase J.H.C, a Dominican essayist, when a White person comes to the Caribbean to get a tan, do you call it self-hated? I think that the Jackon have less of a problem with race than what some you the posters have in the XH seem to suggest...Anyway, what they do with their bodies is none of your business. Let us learn to respect people's choices. Stop hating the Jacksons. Your comments reflect more insecurity on your part than the self-hate you attribute to them.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 10:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 68 ]
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cotigosum - 05 July 2009 08:27 AM
The condition is called "self hate" and many blacks especially blacks in third world countries suffer from it.


Self hatred is too general...one could self hate for a multitude of reasons........this is a specific condition.

As for self hatred; Why do you think it affects ESPECIALLY blacks in third world countries??????
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Posted: 05 July 2009 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 69 ]
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poca - 05 July 2009 07:38 AM
I ma not MJ expert, but I would like to say this regarding the fact that his kids do
not look mixed. Well there is a family that I know for quite some years (1993).
my friend Suzie, her mother Julie and her grandmother Mary. Mary is Haitian
and Had Julie with an Haitian dude. Later one she remarried a french canadian dude.
Julie, Suzie and Marie all lived with the French Canadian dude and another french canadian
girl named Sophie. Sophie was the French canadian's dude's daughter. Like her father
she is vety fair skinned, grey eyes, straight black hair, freckles and behave and talk just
like ordinary French Canadian.

Let folks, only recently (Thursday) that I learned that Sophie's mother is not French Canadian
but Mary, the same haitian lady above. Sophie just look straight white, there is nothing that
could tell that she is hald black. Mind you Mary is not a lightskin or anything like that.



Poca; we are not speculating.

ALL THREE MJ KIDS ARE WHITES...the products of white sperm and white eggs.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 10:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 70 ]
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Papaille - 04 July 2009 11:04 PM
EVERYTIME: THANK YOU JESUS!

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Welcome back Papay...and of course it is my pleasure.
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Posted: 05 July 2009 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 71 ]
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Zodd - 04 July 2009 12:09 AM
Well it wasn't only related to skin color .....There was a motive to intentionally try to look feminine. The illness is an addiction to be genderless rather than racial hatred, in my opinion.The craze started in the 80s of genderless males and I think he got addicted to it due to the high fame......Japanese Artists have the same issues as well.

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All this is called is CONFUSED NEGRO! LOL We got plenty of them around; but, his has got to be the WORSE! Looking like a GHOST!

Hey, most "mixed race" folks go through a little of this too ya know?! I'm reading OBAMA'S "DREAMS FROM MY FATHER" I'm gonna quote later how he deliberately kept the fact that his mama was white from folks that knew him in college! Boy had difficulty dealing with who he was! Stayed high half the time! He also talked about how his friends, in college, who were of mixed race harped on that "mixed race" thing so not to deal with their Africanness/blackness! Hummph...told ya'll Wedosi know what she talkin' bout! Hummmph! Ya'll mustta made dis' thread just for me! I'm gone get on my soapbox for sho' now! LOL Where gunner at?!

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Posted: 05 July 2009 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 72 ]
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cotigosum - 05 July 2009 08:27 AM
The condition is called "self hate" and many blacks especially blacks in third world countries suffer from it.


None that I know of! An AFRICAN knows EXACTLY WHO HE IS!

Now them folks on dem' islands like dem' Puerto Ricans can be as dark as pitch and still say they aren't black! Those Dominicans...at least some of the ones on here tend to have issue too! I don't get it?! What is wrong with being black?! We are the most noble and gifted people gracing this damn planet! We have survived the almost unsurvivable! Ya'll can't see that?! Those Europeans break their necks coming to Africa studying our culture, spiritual systems etc. etc. We got folks all over the world copying our music, sports, style etc. etc. Even when we are at our worst we are copied (gangsta rap etc.).

CAN'T NOBODY, NOWHERE, TELL OLE WEDOSI SHE AIN'T A FABULOUS OLD BLACK BIRD! LOL

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