What the hell are you talking about stealing...Yes the original is haitian meringue and pays voisin dominicain yo made the merengue version. I think music and musician don't have a national barrier..good music is good music beside we influence each others music whether we are aware of it or not..now mambo violento are employing more racine haitian rythms..I think we need to stop this immature behavior and appreciate how history has transformed two distinct culture on one island with alot of comparison although we tend to believe it isn't there.. I love both versions..both bring me back to my parents days me listening to both... Please dont fall into the fool dominican that come on this site..they are bringing there people down and embarassing dominicans..
sa fè la penn pou yo volè mizik nou epi yap mete ke se yo menm ki fè mizik ak pawol yo.
juan luis guerra te volè l nan album li fè en 1992 ti visyeu a
I'm going to see this once. Read carefully. THE PERSON WHO POSTED THIS ONE IS TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT MUSIC, DOMINICANS AND MERENGUE. THIS IS WHY:
A. This band is not Dominican but Venezuelan.
B. These are not the same song and when Haitians tried to suit Juan Luis for this song the looked like clowns as he explained the coincidence in notes and the reasons why the two songs were not related. So, don't even go there. They are not the same.
B. Haitians produced great music and Felix Cumbe, a Haitian, is one of the most respected songwriters in the Golden Age of merengue, 1980s.
C. Wycleff DID COPIED FROM DOMINICANS AND HE HAD TO APOLOGIZED TO THE LATE DOMINICAN ARTIST LUIS DIAS FOR THE WORK HE AND SHAKIRA TOOK FROM LUIS' MUSIC.
SO, you try to make Dominican look bad and you only prove your own musical igonarance. You wish we copy something from you. But I'm afraid there is nothing to justify that. Keep learning from us.
On another note, I personally like Haitian Kompa. I think is more sensual than the garbage Dominicans are producing today as merengue. I bow to the Haitians artists who are keeping a high degree of quality in Kompa. People like Kompa Kreyol, T-Vice and Carimi. These groups have a very international aura. The problem with Kompa is the language. Haitian musical remains mainly for Haitians and only a few people outside Haitians have the acquired taste of undestanding the messege. However, the rythm is Haitian in origin and universal in appeal. Of the few things I like about Haiti, Kompa is one. Before, someone takes me out of context, I said the language is problem because Kompa has a harder time to transcend since Kreyol is spoken only by Haitians. Aventura, a Domnican group, has a large following in Latin America because Spanish is more commonly spoken in the world.
Haitian influence on Dominican music:
1. Felix Cumbe, a great man to Dominicans. Basically unknown to Haitians.
2. Jose Lakay, a great singer who I supect to be Haitian-- though he claims to be Dominican.
3. In the batey Haitian play something called Gaga which seems kind of a ceremonial music.
4. There is a Haitian singer, he claims to be Dominican also, Michel Baptiste (Batista) who used to sing with the a famous Haitians ban in Haiti but in the last years has dedicated himself to sing salsa.
5. Johnny Ventura, who is Dominican- thou he looks Haitian- has recorded some Haitian music in Spanish..I think the song is called Bobine.
Again, be careful with what you write, do not lie. Just that.
And also, music is the only thing we still have, if people are going to take the only thing we have, it's not fair.
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Do not worry, it is not the same song. Juan Luis explain that many years ago. Haitians actually wanted to steal money from him and the just were proven wrong. It is not unusual to see coincidence of notes in music. The most interesting case is Reggetton which is derived from the same tempo and basic notes.
A lot of of "Haitian" music is not truly Haitian. I have seen Haitians singing Spanish boleros in Kompa. Sweet Mickey uses Spanish for some of his music. Haitians have adapted some of the work of Francis Cabrel, Lionel Richie, etc.
But Haitians music is pretty good. It does no have the following of Jamaican music, for example. But it is something you should be proud of.
sa fè la penn pou yo volè mizik nou epi yap mete ke se yo menm ki fè mizik ak pawol yo.
juan luis guerra te volè l nan album li fè en 1992 ti visyeu a
I'm going to see this once. Read carefully. THE PERSON WHO POSTED THIS ONE IS TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT MUSIC, DOMINICANS AND MERENGUE. THIS IS WHY:
A. This band is not Dominican but Venezuelan.
B. These are not the same song and when Haitians tried to suit Juan Luis for this song the looked like clowns as he explained the coincidence in notes and the reasons why the two songs were not related. So, don't even go there. They are not the same.
B. Haitians produced great music and Felix Cumbe, a Haitian, is one of the most respected songwriters in the Golden Age of merengue, 1980s.
C. Wycleff DID COPIED FROM DOMINICANS AND HE HAD TO APOLOGIZED TO THE LATE DOMINICAN ARTIST LUIS DIAS FOR THE WORK HE AND SHAKIRA TOOK FROM LUIS' MUSIC.
SO, you try to make Dominican look bad and you only prove your own musical igonarance. You wish we copy something from you. But I'm afraid there is nothing to justify that. Keep learning from us.
On another note, I personally like Haitian Kompa. I think is more sensual than the garbage Dominicans are producing today as merengue. I bow to the Haitians artists who are keeping a high degree of quality in Kompa. People like Kompa Kreyol, T-Vice and Carimi. These groups have a very international aura. The problem with Kompa is the language. Haitian musical remains mainly for Haitians and only a few people outside Haitians have the acquired taste of undestanding the messege. However, the rythm is Haitian in origin and universal in appeal. Of the few things I like about Haiti, Kompa is one. Before, someone takes me out of context, I said the language is problem because Kompa has a harder time to transcend since Kreyol is spoken only by Haitians. Aventura, a Domnican group, has a large following in Latin America because Spanish is more commonly spoken in the world.
Haitian influence on Dominican music:
1. Felix Cumbe, a great man to Dominicans. Basically unknown to Haitians.
2. Jose Lakay, a great singer who I supect to be Haitian-- though he claims to be Dominican.
3. In the batey Haitian play something called Gaga which seems kind of a ceremonial music.
4. There is a Haitian singer, he claims to be Dominican also, Michel Baptiste (Batista) who used to sing with the a famous Haitians ban in Haiti but in the last years has dedicated himself to sing salsa.
5. Johnny Ventura, who is Dominican- thou he looks Haitian- has recorded some Haitian music in Spanish..I think the song is called Bobine.
Again, be careful with what you write, do not lie. Just that.
Dominican are not, the song is Mal de amor, the "original" song of Luis guerra. LISTEN to the nemours sound I posted and this song you will see it's the same song with spanish words. Coincidences my ass it's the song was written more than 20 years before Juan Luis Guerra "produce" it with the same rythm ?
sa fè la penn pou yo volè mizik nou epi yap mete ke se yo menm ki fè mizik ak pawol yo.
juan luis guerra te volè l nan album li fè en 1992 ti visyeu a
I'm going to see this once. Read carefully. THE PERSON WHO POSTED THIS ONE IS TOTALLY IGNORANT ABOUT MUSIC, DOMINICANS AND MERENGUE. THIS IS WHY:
A. This band is not Dominican but Venezuelan.
B. These are not the same song and when Haitians tried to suit Juan Luis for this song the looked like clowns as he explained the coincidence in notes and the reasons why the two songs were not related. So, don't even go there. They are not the same.
B. Haitians produced great music and Felix Cumbe, a Haitian, is one of the most respected songwriters in the Golden Age of merengue, 1980s.
C. Wycleff DID COPIED FROM DOMINICANS AND HE HAD TO APOLOGIZED TO THE LATE DOMINICAN ARTIST LUIS DIAS FOR THE WORK HE AND SHAKIRA TOOK FROM LUIS' MUSIC.
SO, you try to make Dominican look bad and you only prove your own musical igonarance. You wish we copy something from you. But I'm afraid there is nothing to justify that. Keep learning from us.
On another note, I personally like Haitian Kompa. I think is more sensual than the garbage Dominicans are producing today as merengue. I bow to the Haitians artists who are keeping a high degree of quality in Kompa. People like Kompa Kreyol, T-Vice and Carimi. These groups have a very international aura. The problem with Kompa is the language. Haitian musical remains mainly for Haitians and only a few people outside Haitians have the acquired taste of undestanding the messege. However, the rythm is Haitian in origin and universal in appeal. Of the few things I like about Haiti, Kompa is one. Before, someone takes me out of context, I said the language is problem because Kompa has a harder time to transcend since Kreyol is spoken only by Haitians. Aventura, a Domnican group, has a large following in Latin America because Spanish is more commonly spoken in the world.
Haitian influence on Dominican music:
1. Felix Cumbe, a great man to Dominicans. Basically unknown to Haitians.
2. Jose Lakay, a great singer who I supect to be Haitian-- though he claims to be Dominican.
3. In the batey Haitian play something called Gaga which seems kind of a ceremonial music.
4. There is a Haitian singer, he claims to be Dominican also, Michel Baptiste (Batista) who used to sing with the a famous Haitians ban in Haiti but in the last years has dedicated himself to sing salsa.
5. Johnny Ventura, who is Dominican- thou he looks Haitian- has recorded some Haitian music in Spanish..I think the song is called Bobine.
Again, be careful with what you write, do not lie. Just that.
Dominican are not, the song is Mal de amor, the "original" song of Luis guerra. LISTEN to the nemours sound I posted and this song you will see it's the same song with spanish words. Coincidences my ass it's the song was written more than 20 years before Juan Luis Guerra "produce" it with the same rythm ?
Again. These are not the same song. Sorry, you wish to connect a master like Juan Luis to an obscure composer but that argument was proven wrong more than 15 years ago. Sorry, T-Neg. YOU ARE WRONG. Now, Juan Luis has adapted other artists' work but with full credit. Such was the case when he used Neruda's work in Bachata Rosa, when he used Ulloa en his perico ripiao, when he used Bethoveen in La Lacrimosa etc. He has maintain himself clean when it comes to that. I personally have problems with Juan Luis because he refuses to do duos with Dominican singers. But accusse him of stealing something that everybody would find out in the spot is just rediculous. Again, musicans in Miami proved you argument wrong 15 years ago. Dominicans do not need to copy anything from Haiti. Maybe you learn a few things from us. LOL.
Beautiful music no matter what the language or slight differences are! I personally dont think dude stole it, just has alot of similarities!! Just sit back and feel the music!
