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Historique du Drapeau Haïtien
Posted: 21 May 2012 03:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Rho - 21 May 2012 12:21 PM
Venezuela flag has stars while columbia flag does not! Obviously, the cartoonist had venezuela in mind!!!

Nèg la di li pa't gen Venezyela nan lespri'l ou menm ou vle foure'l nan tèt li! Lamedsin avanse ase pou fè sa? wink
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Posted: 21 May 2012 03:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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SEKON SALYE - 21 May 2012 03:43 PM
Rho - 21 May 2012 12:21 PM
Venezuela flag has stars while columbia flag does not! Obviously, the cartoonist had venezuela in mind!!!

Nèg la di li pa't gen Venezyela nan lespri'l ou menm ou vle foure'l nan tèt li!


Now, that's NEWS to me...where does he say that?? I need reference!!!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 03:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Rho - 21 May 2012 03:41 PM
SEKON SALYE - 21 May 2012 03:19 PM
De 1819 jiska 1831, Venezyela pa't ekziste kòm yon eta an limenm. Li te fè pati sa yo te rele "La Gran Colombia" ki te gen Panama, Pewou, Ekwatè, Kolonbi a'k Venezyela. De ki drapo yo ka'b a'p pale an 1822? Chèche bon sans nou mezanmi!


Above sounds like a whole lot of hoopla to me!!! It's irrelevant to the core of my previous posting. The flag above depicts Venezuela flag!!! NO??? Do you disagree???

Drapo Venezyela jodi-a, wi! Ou pa rive wè dat 1822 atis la mete sou kote drapo-a? Ou bezwen yon loup?
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Posted: 21 May 2012 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Bon, merci beaucoup! I am dealing here with a delusional man who thinks he can read someone's mind!!!

No one knows for sure what the cartoonist has in mind. You could try to pontificate but that's all!!!

I rest my case!!!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Rho - 21 May 2012 03:45 PM
SEKON SALYE - 21 May 2012 03:43 PM
Rho - 21 May 2012 12:21 PM
Venezuela flag has stars while columbia flag does not! Obviously, the cartoonist had venezuela in mind!!!

Nèg la di li pa't gen Venezyela nan lespri'l ou menm ou vle foure'l nan tèt li!


Now, that's NEWS to me...where does he say that?? I need reference!!!


Fasil monchè! Siman Jerry Boursiquot se kouzen'w! Rele'l! Antretan ma'p eseye wè si'm k'a rive jwenn yon dokiman ekri kote'l di koze Venezyela-a li pa konnen'l. Mwen konnen menm lè sa-a ou pa'p kwè! Ojis kisa drapo Venezyela ta'p vin chèche nan istwa drapo peyi d'Ayiti? Wa'p jete verite pou fè moun kwè nan devinèt! Ou pa serye kanmarad!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 04:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Rho - 21 May 2012 03:55 PM
Bon, merci beaucoup! I am dealing here with a delusional man who thinks he can read someone's mind!!!

No one knows for sure what the cartoonist has in mind. You could try to pontificate but that's all!!!

I rest my case!!!

Ou pa gen yon ka Rho! Ou sèlman bezwen repase listwa epi konprann chak bagay nan kontèks li. Ou pa bezwen a'p itilize mo pou desann moun ka'p diskite avè'w. Sa pa'p fè'w pi byen. Okontrè! Pimal sitou lè ou konprann ou k'a kanpe sou devinèt epi fè sa'w panse ya pase pou verite. Repase Istwa d'Ayiti nan ane 1818-1820 apre Petyon a'k Kristòf te mouri epi Bwaye te vin prezidan nan Lwès, apre sa tout peyi-a, apre sa tout zile-a! Lè sa-a w'a gen yon preparasyon pou antre nan diskisyon sa-a!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Rho - 20 May 2012 10:38 PM
I believe the flag under the 1822 banner is that of Venezuela. If my recollection serves me well, Miranda and Simon Bolivar went to Jacmel and plotted to free venezuela from Spain. Perhaps, this is what the artist is trying to depict here: that Haiti played a major role in venezuela gaining her independence...thus, their flag is a derivative of ours!!

That's my educated guess!!!





This is what is written by the picture.......*Squeeze your eyes to see* LOL

Le 9 février 1822, Jean-Pierre Boyer annexa la partie espagnole de l'île laquelle, quelques mois auparavant, le 30 novembre 1821, proclama son indépendance de l'Espagne sous le nom de "Republica del Haiti espanol" "République de Haïti Espagnol" et parallèlement, son union avec la Grande Colombie. Le drapeau de le République de Haiti Espagnol fut hissé dès les premières semaines de 1822



The flag is wrong, 1804 flag is wrong, 1806 flag is wrong..and I don't even know where Christophe flag came from........That is the artist fault. He most likely saw it on this misinformed site
http://www.haiticulture.ch/Drapeau_national.html
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Posted: 21 May 2012 05:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Great find Skinz.

Hopefully the artist will make the proper corrections.
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Posted: 21 May 2012 09:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Skinz - 21 May 2012 04:32 PM

That is the artist fault.

Skinz, nou pa'ka blame atis la si Rho di se a'k Venezyela li ta'p panse lè'l desine drapo 1822 ya. Se Rho li menm ki pou aprann mete kesyon yo nan kontèks yo epi sispann fè devinèt. Misye te dwe mande poukisa drapo Venezyela nan tablo-a! Konsa-a yo t'a eksplike'l. Men non! Se gwo save'l ye, se pou'l fè konklizyon! Jiskatan li te fè byen lè'l te di li devine ya, men apre se pou'l afime yon tenten! Mwen vle di afiche yon tenten!
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Posted: 21 May 2012 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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SEKON SALYE - 21 May 2012 09:33 PM
S - 21 May 2012 04:32 PM

That is the artist fault.

S, nou p blame atis la si Rho di se a'k Venezyela li ta'p panse lè'l desine drapo 1822 ya. Se Rho li menm ki pou aprann mete kesyon yo nan kontèks yo epi sispann fè devinèt. Misye te dwe mande poukisa drapo Venezyela nan tablo-a! Konsa-a yo t'a eksplike'l. Men non! Se gwo save'l ye, se pou'l fè konklizyon! Jiskatan li te fè byen lè'l te di li devine ya, men apre se pou'l afime yon tenten! Mwen vle di afiche yon tenten!


Come on SS, you are attacking Rho for no good reason.

While the other errors pointed out by Skinz can be looked over.......that 1822 flag has no place in that painting.

The artist is indeed at fault.
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Posted: 21 May 2012 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Jesus Christ - 21 May 2012 09:48 PM
SEKON SALYE - 21 May 2012 09:33 PM
S - 21 May 2012 04:32 PM

That is the artist fault.

S, nou p blame atis la si Rho di se a'k Venezyela li ta'p panse lè'l desine drapo 1822 ya. Se Rho li menm ki pou aprann mete kesyon yo nan kontèks yo epi sispann fè devinèt. Misye te dwe mande poukisa drapo Venezyela nan tablo-a! Konsa-a yo t'a eksplike'l. Men non! Se gwo save'l ye, se pou'l fè konklizyon! Jiskatan li te fè byen lè'l te di li devine ya, men apre se pou'l afime yon tenten! Mwen vle di afiche yon tenten!


Come on SS, you are attacking Rho for no good reason.

While the other errors pointed out by Skinz can be looked over.......that 1822 flag has no place in that painting.

The artist is indeed at fault.

Non JC! Pa gen atak nan sa'm di yo. Si wa'p jije san patipri, se pou admèt se Rho li menm ki te atake'm lè'l te di mwen soufri maladi mantal la. Se Rho ki nan manti, li pa'ka fè'l tounen diferan! Atis la gen dwa fè yon erè nan mete drapo-a, men lè yon nonm di se drapo Venezyelyen ki te nan tèt atis la, se sa ki rele malad mantal la. Mwen pale a'k Jerry Boursiquot pèsonèlman. Li ri de koze Venezyela-a. Misye di bagay konsa pa't nan tèt li ditou!
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Posted: 22 May 2012 08:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Jesus Christ - 21 May 2012 07:55 AM
Incognito - 21 May 2012 01:28 AM
Jc, the text is so small I would be the venezuelan flag was about the Spanish Haiti that didn't last too long.

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"The former lieutenant-governor José Núñez de Cáceres declared the colony's independence as the state of Spanish Haiti (Haiti Español) on November 30, 1821, requesting admission to the Republic of Gran Colombia; but Haitian forces led by Jean-Pierre Boyer occupied the country just nine weeks later."



The flag in the artist's painting is not the Venezuelan flag of the period nor the flag of Gran Colombia.

Again, any flag raised by Spanish Haiti would be part of Dominican flag history.

He is trying to make a venezuelan flag connection that simply does not exist....safe for the fact that the venezuelan flag was first flown in Haiti.


JC is right.

The flag in the image is the present day flag:


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But then again, we have this:


flag2.jpg
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