I have stood in the presence of divinities, walked the roads of the dead, seen the faces of demons, layed in forest, cemeteries and fought the forces of evil. And not at one time do I feel that I as well as any other human can judge anybody. But one think is correct....God/Spirits don't change only man does.
Wedosi
Yes ..yes Ayido...we know...we know.... the 60s were a period of much hallucination.
BTW JC....Boy why don't you just come on and let Wedosi initiate you, into vodun, so we can gone get this thang over with..... Damn, I'se getting older by the min.
Wedosi
lol..lol..lol.....but I am Haitian and you are only trained in Dahomean Vodun.......go get me Manbo Racine...lol
"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood."
I dont think so..I find it insulting when people try to compare homophobia with racism. I have said gays are for the most part nice people and bring property value up..LOL.what they do in their house and carry on in public is there business but don't expect me to agree with it. They are even trying to make the super hero come out the closet. so disgusting as they are targetting the young and fresh mind to think this is normal behavior..teaching kids to like the same sex...
i agree. homosexuality, in my humble opinion, is a chosen life style. i fume with fire when people try to equate what african-americans went through in america with gay people's rights.
Jesus Christ - 22 June 2012 05:58 PM
maximo - 22 June 2012 05:50 PM
I know there are psycho hateful people like gunner out there. [/size]
GUNNER is not hateful Maximo.
He has religious beliefs that he holds dear....but he is not advocating violence.
To effectively fight your battle, you have to understand where the other side is coming from.
i don't think gunner hates anyone (except maybe clinton and farmer). he has his religious views. at one point, i felt the way gunner feels. but when i thought my nephew was gay after i found a love letter from a boy in his pocket, i couldn't abandon him for that. i spoke to him and i explained to him that he wouldn't be treated any different. i was relieved though to find out the letter wasn't his, that he had to deliver it.
i have a ton of gay students, i can't treat them any other way except like students. if i were to find out that my son was gay, i'd be disappointed because of my religious views, but he would still be my son and i wouldn't treat him any other way but like my son.
my problem with homosexuals is not that they are gay--they have feelings for people of the same gender. i don't think people can control their feelings. my issue with homosexuals is that they are always in your face. they violate your right in order to express their rights. they remind me of the jews who wear "i'm a jew" badge, but then if you call them jews they right aware shout "anti-semite" and then they go into a violent rage.
i don't know maximo. he has never done anything to me or said anything against me on hx. i respect his views. i appreciate the info he shares with us on hx. however, he falls in the category of the "i'm a jew" badge wearing jew. i don't know why he lashes out.
Well you might confuse me embracing who Iam, with the type of people you discribe.
So how would you feel if you were in a room of 50 white people and all were talking about european culture,and everything that relate to the white european culture, and you were the only black person in the room who's from Haiti, So would you not want to stand out and talk about your own culture also and be part of the conversation . Or would you stay aside don't say anything . And would you not want for them to respect you and not prevent you from talking in the room, wheter or not some might not like black people for what ever their personal reasons are
It's not about throwing things at people face and force them etc.
It's about embracing who you are what ever it might be: Embracing and celebrate your race, your religion, your sexual orientation etc.
So the same way straight men here can talk about women they have relationships with , the same way I have the right to talk about men I have relationships with.
And don't say because Iam an homosexual Iam limited to do certain things and because if someone is an heterosexual he's not limited to do those same things.
So some straight people confuse that as throwing homosexuality on their faces etc, so I hope you see my point
"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood."
I dont think so..I find it insulting when people try to compare homophobia with racism. I have said gays are for the most part nice people and bring property value up..LOL.what they do in their house and carry on in public is there business but don't expect me to agree with it. They are even trying to make the super hero come out the closet. so disgusting as they are targetting the young and fresh mind to think this is normal behavior..teaching kids to like the same sex...
i agree. homosexuality, in my humble opinion, is a chosen life style. i fume with fire when people try to equate what african-america went through in america with gay people's rights.
Jesus Christ - 22 June 2012 05:58 PM
maximo - 22 June 2012 05:50 PM
I know there are psycho hateful people like gunner out there. [/size]
GUNNER is not hateful Maximo.
He has religious beliefs that he holds dear....but he is not advocating violence.
To effectively fight your battle, you have to understand where the other side is coming from.
i don't think gunner hates anyone (except maybe clinton and farmer). he has his religious views. at one point, i felt the way gunner feels. but when i thought my nephew was gay after i found a love letter from a boy in his pocket, i couldn't abandon him for that. i spoke to him and i explained to him that he wouldn't be treated any different. i was relieved though to find out the letter wasn't his, that he had to deliver it.
i have a ton of gay students, i can't treat them any other way except like students. if i were to find out that my son was gay, i'd be disappointed because of my religious views, but he would still be my son and i wouldn't treat him any other way but like my son.
my problem with homosexuals is not that they are gay--they have feelings for people of the same gender. i don't think people can control their feelings. my issue with homosexuals is that they are always in your face. they violate your right in order to express their rights. they remind me of the jew who wear "i'm a jew" badge, but then if you call them jew they right aware shout "anti-semite" and then they go into a violent rage.
i don't know maximo. he has never done anything to me or said anything against me on hx. i respect his views. i appreciate the info he shares with us on hx. however, he falls in the category of the "i'm a jew" badge wearing jew. i don't know why he lashes out.
Well you might confuse me embracing who Iam, with the type of people you discribe.
So how would you feel if you were in a room of 50 white people and all were talking about european culture,and everything that relate to the white european culture, and you were the only black person in the room who's from Haiti, So would you not want to stand out and talk about your own culture also and be part of the conversation . Or would you stay aside don't say anything . And would you not want for them to respect you and not prevent you from talking in the room, wheter or not some might not like black people for what ever their personal reasons are
It's not about throwing things at people face and force them etc.
It's about embracing who you are what ever it might be: Embracing and celebrate your race, your religion, your sexual orientation etc.
So the same way straight men here can talk about women they have relationships with , the same way I have the right to talk about men I have relationships with.
And don't say because Iam an homosexual Iam limited to do certain things and because if someone is an heterosexual he's not limited to do those same things.
So some straight people confuse that as throwing homosexuality on their faces etc, so I hope you see my point
There is good and bad.
"Live and let live" is a self centered, cowards, view of the world and the urges that trouble it.
People are troubled and need help.
To ignore it as: "Live and let live" is being very self absorbed.
The homosexual, adulterer, drug addict, thief, liar, obesity, vulgarity, alcoholics, arrogance are all signs of inner troubles.
Christians are asked to help these people in need, and not turn towards the secular world of: Live and Let Live.
A Christian service, is first and foremost, a gathering of sinners.
But we come together to help each other with the above manifestations of our inner troubles.
By doing so, we hope to draw in those that remain outside looking in.
Do you not think that the adulterer loves his mistress(es) while having sex with them?
Does the drug addict not love his drugs?
Does the pedophile not love his kids?
Does the homosexual not love his "partner"?
Knowing of somebody who is Gay doesn't mean you throw your beliefs out the window in support of them.
Do you do that for the drug addict? Adulterer? Pedophile? etc?
I have stood in the presence of divinities, walked the roads of the dead, seen the faces of demons, layed in forest, cemeteries and fought the forces of evil. And not at one time do I feel that I as well as any other human can judge anybody. But one think is correct....God/Spirits don't change only man does.
Wedosi
Yes ..yes Ayido...we know...we know.... the 60s were a period of much hallucination.
Are you still taking these stimulants??
Laugh all you want to boo baby but Wedosi ain't telling NO lies!!!! Wedosi
BTW JC....Boy why don't you just come on and let Wedosi initiate you, into vodun, so we can gone get this thang over with..... Damn, I'se getting older by the min.
Wedosi
lol..lol..lol.....but I am Haitian and you are only trained in Dahomean Vodun.......go get me Manbo Racine...lol
Dat white woman can't tell you a damn thang 'bout your African ancestors boo baby... Vodun begins with your oldest ancestors and moves forward; but, of course ya'll don't know nothing 'bout dat. An African Vodunon is trained to call ANY spirit. Why you thank I got so many Haitian initiates. Dey know de deal!!!
Just be glad about this historical fact....the one taking my throne after me done been chosen (of course I plan to live to 100) ....he a Haitian. When I OFFICIALLY take dat throne wilth all that pompus and circumstance etc. etc. just look to my right he gone be there. He a bad dude too. Reminds me of YOU! Dat's who I was a visiting while in Miami there.
Yes suh, keep on laughing; but, this old fine fox gone have the last laugh!
Actually boo baby the bible IS NOT the word of God. It is a book INSPIRED by God.
Wedosi
Oh OH...we need GUNNER and Tibob in here.
Word of God or not the word of god????
Does inspired means...it is therefore the word of man????
You can't have it both way people.
Every word in the Bible is God breathed.
End of that discussion.
Oh hush up gunner! You know I know the bible better than you! Only a fool would state what you just did! Did you not study the canonization of the bible? Of course not! Have you read any of the books/letters NOT included in the Bible? Of course not! You relying on Sunday Bible School lessons. Give it up! Wedosi
"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood."
I dont think so..I find it insulting when people try to compare homophobia with racism. I have said gays are for the most part nice people and bring property value up..LOL.what they do in their house and carry on in public is there business but don't expect me to agree with it. They are even trying to make the super hero come out the closet. so disgusting as they are targetting the young and fresh mind to think this is normal behavior..teaching kids to like the same sex...
i agree. homosexuality, in my humble opinion, is a chosen life style. i fume with fire when people try to equate what african-americans went through in america with gay people's rights.
Jesus Christ - 22 June 2012 05:58 PM
maximo - 22 June 2012 05:50 PM
I know there are psycho hateful people like gunner out there. [/size]
GUNNER is not hateful Maximo.
He has religious beliefs that he holds dear....but he is not advocating violence.
To effectively fight your battle, you have to understand where the other side is coming from.
i don't think gunner hates anyone (except maybe clinton and farmer). he has his religious views. at one point, i felt the way gunner feels. but when i thought my nephew was gay after i found a love letter from a boy in his pocket, i couldn't abandon him for that. i spoke to him and i explained to him that he wouldn't be treated any different. i was relieved though to find out the letter wasn't his, that he had to deliver it.
i have a ton of gay students, i can't treat them any other way except like students. if i were to find out that my son was gay, i'd be disappointed because of my religious views, but he would still be my son and i wouldn't treat him any other way but like my son.
my problem with homosexuals is not that they are gay--they have feelings for people of the same gender. i don't think people can control their feelings. my issue with homosexuals is that they are always in your face. they violate your right in order to express their rights. they remind me of the jews who wear "i'm a jew" badge, but then if you call them jews they right aware shout "anti-semite" and then they go into a violent rage.
i don't know maximo. he has never done anything to me or said anything against me on hx. i respect his views. i appreciate the info he shares with us on hx. however, he falls in the category of the "i'm a jew" badge wearing jew. i don't know why he lashes out.
Well you might confuse me embracing who Iam, with the type of people you discribe.
So how would you feel if you were in a room of 50 white people and all were talking about european culture,and everything that relate to the white european culture, and you were the only black person in the room who's from Haiti, So would you not want to stand out and talk about your own culture also and be part of the conversation . Or would you stay aside don't say anything . And would you not want for them to respect you and not prevent you from talking in the room, wheter or not some might not like black people for what ever their personal reasons are
It's not about throwing things at people face and force them etc.
It's about embracing who you are what ever it might be: Embracing and celebrate your race, your religion, your sexual orientation etc.
So the same way straight men here can talk about women they have relationships with , the same way I have the right to talk about men I have relationships with.
And don't say because Iam an homosexual Iam limited to do certain things and because if someone is an heterosexual he's not limited to do those same things.
So some straight people confuse that as throwing homosexuality on their faces etc, so I hope you see my point
Maximo,
No one isn't telling you not to be happy with your sexual orientation but when one tries to make racism of colour and what african descendants have been thru world wide is undermining what my race has gone and still goes thru daily. I also don't like when hetero couples getting into each other in public places. It seems with you being gay is about just getting a boner when u see a male. If I was in a room with whites talking about European culture I would feel comfortable as it is also part of my culture race and culture is not the same. Thus your example doesn't make sense but to be fair I am not telling how you should have sex with that's ur business. But don't expect everyone to like ur sexual perference just like I don't expect anyone to like my race. As long Im not hung and chase down because of my race just like it wouldn't be right for u being gay. And one doesn't need to have a Halle Berry to get me hard as it takes more than that to arouse me..you speak as if you were a animal in a jungle that can't hold ur sexual urge. BTW, when u post on HX do we judge u for ur sexual perference..I don't. So it is u that think people don't respect ur sexual perference. NYC are full of gays..
Actually boo baby the bible IS NOT the word of God. It is a book INSPIRED by God.
Wedosi
Oh OH...we need GUNNER and Tibob in here.
Word of God or not the word of god????
Does inspired means...it is therefore the word of man????
You can't have it both way people.
Every word in the Bible is God breathed.
End of that discussion.
Oh hush up gunner! You know I know the bible better than you! Only a fool would state what you just did! Did you not study the canonization of the bible? Of course not! Have you read any of the books/letters NOT included in the Bible? Of course not! You relying on Sunday Bible School lessons. Give it up! Wedosi
You sure about all of that? Read on for clarification:
I've seen over the years that you've made many, many, derogatory comments about Christians, but NOT ONE against the Gay community.
I also believe that from your posts that you have never been married and have no children.
Hmmm. Very suspicious indeed.
I'm quite proud to announce that my wife "turns me on" and I have ZERO need for Halle Berry.
Sometimes my kids wish what you supposed was true.
Wrong on all counts.
1. Married once...escaped.....one little JC....and that still does not prove anything.....I could still be a homo....just as you could.
2. Actually I have made derogatory remarks about ALL groups...check the records. But christians/moslems ESPECIALLY the negros are at the top of my list....because they are so incredibly stupid and are contributing to the killing of brain cells of future negro generations.
So in any fight between the Gays and negro christian/moslems, I am siding with the GAYS.
3. GUNNER.......At your age and your wife's age, she is not turning anybody on...you are confusing old age body movements with sexual arousal....get a prostate and colon check.
Whaaaaaaa! :lol; This is too funny!!! O' lordy be....I needed a good laugh today!!!
Wedosi
Guys! I'm not married to a 50+ White, HIspanic or Asian woman; but a 50+ Black woman.
I would agree with you if she was White, Asian or Hispanic, but she's Black, and she still looks mighty fine.
Above 35+, and there is no question that Black women hold a figure 100x better than any other race.
But more than that, I love my wife far more deeply than her figure.
Understand? We've been married a long time and have really become one.
"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood."
I dont think so..I find it insulting when people try to compare homophobia with racism. I have said gays are for the most part nice people and bring property value up..LOL.what they do in their house and carry on in public is there business but don't expect me to agree with it. They are even trying to make the super hero come out the closet. so disgusting as they are targetting the young and fresh mind to think this is normal behavior..teaching kids to like the same sex...
i agree. homosexuality, in my humble opinion, is a chosen life style. i fume with fire when people try to equate what african-america went through in america with gay people's rights.
Jesus Christ - 22 June 2012 05:58 PM
maximo - 22 June 2012 05:50 PM
I know there are psycho hateful people like gunner out there. [/size]
GUNNER is not hateful Maximo.
He has religious beliefs that he holds dear....but he is not advocating violence.
To effectively fight your battle, you have to understand where the other side is coming from.
i don't think gunner hates anyone (except maybe clinton and farmer). he has his religious views. at one point, i felt the way gunner feels. but when i thought my nephew was gay after i found a love letter from a boy in his pocket, i couldn't abandon him for that. i spoke to him and i explained to him that he wouldn't be treated any different. i was relieved though to find out the letter wasn't his, that he had to deliver it.
i have a ton of gay students, i can't treat them any other way except like students. if i were to find out that my son was gay, i'd be disappointed because of my religious views, but he would still be my son and i wouldn't treat him any other way but like my son.
my problem with homosexuals is not that they are gay--they have feelings for people of the same gender. i don't think people can control their feelings. my issue with homosexuals is that they are always in your face. they violate your right in order to express their rights. they remind me of the jew who wear "i'm a jew" badge, but then if you call them jew they right aware shout "anti-semite" and then they go into a violent rage.
i don't know maximo. he has never done anything to me or said anything against me on hx. i respect his views. i appreciate the info he shares with us on hx. however, he falls in the category of the "i'm a jew" badge wearing jew. i don't know why he lashes out.
Well you might confuse me embracing who Iam, with the type of people you discribe.
So how would you feel if you were in a room of 50 white people and all were talking about european culture,and everything that relate to the white european culture, and you were the only black person in the room who's from Haiti, So would you not want to stand out and talk about your own culture also and be part of the conversation . Or would you stay aside don't say anything . And would you not want for them to respect you and not prevent you from talking in the room, wheter or not some might not like black people for what ever their personal reasons are
It's not about throwing things at people face and force them etc.
It's about embracing who you are what ever it might be: Embracing and celebrate your race, your religion, your sexual orientation etc.
So the same way straight men here can talk about women they have relationships with , the same way I have the right to talk about men I have relationships with.
And don't say because Iam an homosexual Iam limited to do certain things and because if someone is an heterosexual he's not limited to do those same things.
So some straight people confuse that as throwing homosexuality on their faces etc, so I hope you see my point
I turn in disgust from any married man talking about his "lover". That "Hey Baby" crap just about makes me barf on the spot. So it's not about "orientation". You want to tell me about your "partner" and I will walk away in disgust just the same.
In both instances I find the behavior disgusting. And I do not have to accept it.
You seem to feel "entitled" to refuse the word of God and Christians but expect me to "accept" your lifestyle.
What entitles you that doesn't entitle me?
You feel empowered because the media promotes your belief structure over the Bible.
It makes you "think" that your behavior is being "accepted" but nature itself refuses you that accolade.
Your anal sex is no doubt extremely painful without lubricate.
The reason you need the lubricate is because nature didn't provide for it.
So man did. Nature fights you and you should consider that God and nature BOTH oppose your behavior.
Your belief structure comes from the inner-self and mine comes from God.
I am not so conceited to believe that I have the answers.
And where is that DNA chain that provides you with your thoughts?
Damn, I'se getting older by the min. 
