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Posted: 22 June 2012 05:41 PM   [ Ignore ]
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2 weeks from now, they will start with the Destruction of one of the biggest slums in port au Prince

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Posted: 23 June 2012 04:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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when i read about this on defend.ht the other day, i had negative thoughts just because it's haiti. smh

the first thing is that people will probably lose their homes and probably won't get any real compensation. i pray that i'm wrong.

they will probably start the demolition (see the palais national as reference) and and leave things half assed. then the rain will come and the remnants of those buildings will "gringole" toward the hospital and the rest of the population anyway.

what i hope and pray for is that they actually start and finish the demolition; IMMEDIATELY reinforce the gullies and then plant trees where buildings used to be.

now, instead of giving 100,000 gourde for people to find a new place to build new shanties, they should have had housing available for rent or buy.
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Posted: 23 June 2012 08:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Ti-Joe Gro Nen - 23 June 2012 04:35 AM
when i read about this on defend.ht the other day, i had negative thoughts just because it's haiti. smh

the first thing is that people will probably lose their homes and probably won't get any real compensation. i pray that i'm wrong.

they will probably start the demolition (see the palais national as reference) and and leave things half assed. then the rain will come and the remnants of those buildings will "gringole" toward the hospital and the rest of the population anyway.

what i hope and pray for is that they actually start and finish the demolition; IMMEDIATELY reinforce the gullies and then plant trees where buildings used to be.

now, instead of giving 100,000 gourde for people to find a new place to build new shanties, they should have had housing available for rent or buy.
I agree, I hope they don't do another half ass job.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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so freaken typical!!!! for once the government wants to do something to improve and save lives and this is how the people respond.

Hundreds protest Haiti gov't plan to destroy slum

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Published: Monday, Jun. 25, 2012 - 7:50 am
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- Hundreds are marching in the suburbs of Haiti's capital to protest a government plan to destroy their shantytown homes on the side of a hill.

The protesters snaked through the grid-like streets of Petionville as they chanted threats to burn down the relatively affluent city if authorities flatten their nearby homes.

An official with the Ministry of Environment said on local radio last week that the government wants to tear down several hundred homes surrounding Petionville because it needs to install channels to curb flooding.

Haiti's capital of Port-au-Prince is filled with some 3 million people and the mountains have been covered over the years with concrete homes and hovels that collapse in heavy rains.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 11:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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The protesters said President Michel Martelly fell short on his promise to build homes destroyed in the 2010 earthquake. The disaster destroyed tens of thousands houses in the capital and other cities in the south and officials said 314,000 people died.

"Martelly didn't build any houses. How can he destroy our homes?" said 22-year-old Joel Jean-Pierre. "If he comes to destroy our homes we're going to burn down Petionville."
The government is building hundreds of homes north of the capital but, but too few to house the more than 400,000 people still living in the precarious settlements that emerged in the aftermath of the quake.

In an effort to move people out of the camps, the Haitian government, foreign aid groups and governments gave yearlong rental subsidies, and residents of six highly visible camps moved into hillside shanty areas such as Jalouise, where some fear they now face demolition of their new homes. Others have moved there because they were evicted by land owners.

Port-au-Prince, a city of some 3 million, has seen concrete houses and hovels sprawl across its hills because governments past and present have failed to provide affordable housing. Many of those homes crash down the hills every year during the country's rainy seasons and people often die.

The march on Monday was largely peaceful but some protesters threw rocks at a towering hotel financed in part by the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, a nonprofit set up after the earthquake by former U.S. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. The demonstrators were angry to see the opulent hotel under construction amid fears that they will lose their homes.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 12:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Mwen paka compren payi sa yo reler Haiti ya dutout payi pas changer a bit apres toute demago monter descend, on merde clinton, martelly and the international communauter pas regler pou haiti payi ya reter meme jen, ko manman messieur esker trop mal haitians fais, or destin nous ce pou payi ya eliminer nan surface carraibes, pa fucking gen espoir pou capital port-auprince et mw commencer fatiguer avec U.S.A, mwen prend nan kaka messieur.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 01:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Jesus Christ - 25 June 2012 11:55 AM
The protesters said President Michel Martelly fell short on his promise to build homes destroyed in the 2010 earthquake. The disaster destroyed tens of thousands houses in the capital and other cities in the south and officials said 314,000 people died.

"Martelly didn't build any houses. How can he destroy our homes?" said 22-year-old Joel Jean-Pierre. "If he comes to destroy our homes we're going to burn down Petionville."
The government is building hundreds of homes north of the capital but, but too few to house the more than 400,000 people still living in the precarious settlements that emerged in the aftermath of the quake.

In an effort to move people out of the camps, the Haitian government, foreign aid groups and governments gave yearlong rental subsidies, and residents of six highly visible camps moved into hillside shanty areas such as Jalouise, where some fear they now face demolition of their new homes. Others have moved there because they were evicted by land owners.

Port-au-Prince, a city of some 3 million, has seen concrete houses and hovels sprawl across its hills because governments past and present have failed to provide affordable housing. Many of those homes crash down the hills every year during the country's rainy seasons and people often die.

The march on Monday was largely peaceful [size=4]but some protesters threw rocks at a towering hotel financed in part by the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, a nonprofit set up after the earthquake by former U.S. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. The demonstrators were angry to see the opulent hotel under construction amid fears that they will lose their homes
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As I have said before: Haitian Nationals aren't stupid nor are they politcally tied to the Democrat Party like the diaspora.

Martelly has done NOTHING to build a future for Haiti.

He's building 5 star hotels and leaving residents without sanitation.

Ya! I would be pissed too.

When you live in a stinking shack, and you have to fight to protect it; then you know you're living in hell.

Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGOs and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.

Ya! I would be pissed too.

P au P has NO infrastructure and the diaspora is upset that Nationals are protesting against the destruction of their shacks.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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gunner - 25 June 2012 01:27 PM
Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGOs and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.



GUNNER, blame the right people. Ti-Simone has NOTHING to do with these hotels.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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gunner - 25 June 2012 01:27 PM
Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGOs and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.



GUNNER, blame the right people. Ti-Simone has NOTHING to do with these hotels.


i thought we were beyond blaming the "government." i thought it was you gunner who stressed that haiti's "governments" had been and continue to be puppet figures. clinton is fully in charge down there. he does as he pleases. why do for the mass if it will take away from the power, the stronghold of his ngos?
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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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gunner - 25 June 2012 01:27 PM
Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGO and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.



GUNNER, blame the right people. Ti-Simone has NOTHING to do with these hotels.


His support for them, and lack of interest/focus on infrastructure, is what the Haitian Nationals are most disturbed about.

He said NOTHING when Clinton took $2 million of donated money and gave it to the builders of the Oasis Hotel.

That's why Nationals are throwing rocks.

The Red Cross talks about taking donated money to build another hotel and Martelly says nothing.

That's why Nationals are throwing rocks.

When you don't have a commode to piss in, but walk past a 5 star hotel everyday, you're going to get angry.

Martelly is fully supporting EVERYTHING being done by the NGO community, and conversely, is doing nothing for Nationals.

Ya! They get pissed about that.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Ti-Joe Gro Nen - 25 June 2012 03:49 PM
Jesus Christ - 25 June 2012 03:40 PM
gunner - 25 June 2012 01:27 PM
Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGO and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.



GUNNER, blame the right people. Ti-Simone has NOTHING to do with these hotels.


i thought we were beyond blaming the "government." i thought it was you gunner who stressed that haiti's "governments" had been and continue to be puppet figures. clinton is fully in charge down there. he does as he pleases. why do for the mass if it will take away from the power, the stronghold of his ngos?


I am looking at things through the prism of a Haitian National trying to keep his ram shackled, tin shack, from being bull dozed, while walking past the 5 star Oasis Hotel.

They KNOW the NGO (Clinton/Farmer) are thieves. They expect their president to do something about that!

When he is complicit in their behavior, yes, they get angry.

It is up to the diaspora to bring this horrid NGO behavior to the forefront, but they too, like Martelly, are fully complicit in it.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 04:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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gunner - 25 June 2012 03:58 PM
His support for them, and lack of interest/focus on infrastructure, is what the Haitian Nationals are most disturbed about.

He said NOTHING when Clinton took $2 million of donated money and gave it to the builders of the Oasis Hotel.

That's why Nationals are throwing rocks.

The Red Cross talks about taking donated money to build another hotel and Martelly says nothing.

That's why Nationals are throwing rocks.

When you don't have a commode to piss in, but walk past a 5 star hotel everyday, you're going to get angry.

Martelly is fully supporting EVERYTHING being done by the NGO community, and conversely, is doing nothing for Nationals.

Ya! They get pissed about that.


Then tell us the actions that ti-simone should have taken to prevent the building of these hotels????

I am all EARS.
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Posted: 25 June 2012 04:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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gunner - 25 June 2012 04:02 PM
Ti-Joe Gro Nen - 25 June 2012 03:49 PM
Jesus Christ - 25 June 2012 03:40 PM
gunner - 25 June 2012 01:27 PM
Martelly should have built a massive warehouse district that could be used for temporary housing.

But no! He builds the 5 star, Oasis Hotel for the NGO and the likes of Ms Charles, and NOTHING for Haitian Nationals.



GUNNER, blame the right people. Ti-Simone has NOTHING to do with these hotels.


i thought we were beyond blaming the "government." i thought it was you gunner who stressed that haiti's "governments" had been and continue to be puppet figures. clinton is fully in charge down there. he does as he pleases. why do for the mass if it will take away from the power, the stronghold of his ngos?


I am looking at things through the prism of a Haitian National trying to keep his ram shackled, tin shack, from being bull dozed, while walking past the 5 star Oasis Hotel.

They KNOW the NGO (Clinton/Farmer) are thieves. They expect their president to do something about that!

When he is complicit in their behavior, yes, they get angry.

It is up to the diaspora to bring this horrid NGO behavior to the forefront, but they too, like Martelly, are fully complicit in it.


you know what gunner, the reality is that the ngo is in control and the diaspora can't do anything about it. let's pretend that the diaspora by some miracle rallies and then helps kick out the mighty black u.s. president and replaces him with a republican, what then? do you think the republicans will allow haiti, a "failed state" to govern itself? do you honestly think the republicans will allow haiti to hold a real "free" election? let's say the aforementioned are permitted, how long do you think it will take before said president and government will take before they can ever make a difference in the lives of the average dirt poor hatian national?
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