Ecuador, Brazil to help set up Haiti new military
Posted: 31 July 2012 07:00 PM   [ Ignore ]
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, July 30 (Reuters) - Brazil and Ecuador have agreed to help Haiti set up a new army that will eventually replace the U.N. peacekeeping force that has protected the
impoverished Caribbean nation on and off since 1994, officials say.

Haiti's President Michel Martelly has been pushing the idea of reconstituting the army for almost a year, saying Haitianswould prefer to have their country protected by its own troops
rather than United Nations soldiers deployed in Haiti.

Brazil's Defense Ministry confirmed it was prepared to help Haiti in everything it needs to restore its army, includingmilitary training and engineering. Ecuador has also pledged its
support, a defense ministry official said.

"Brazil will give all its know-how to help Haiti rebuild its army," a defense ministry spokesperson told Reuters.

Brazil, which heads the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Haiti, will send a military team to Haiti in the next two to three weeks to assess the situation, the spokesperson said.

Martelly personally requested Brazil's support during a visit by President Dilma Rousseff to Haiti earlier this year, officials said. An agreement was made in Brasilia last week
during a meeting of Haiti and Brazil's defense ministers.

U.S. and U.N. officials are concerned that restoring the army could undermine international efforts to train and equip a new civilian police force, a key goal of the U.N. mission in
Haiti. Critics also point to the Haitian Army's appalling human rights record, including a bloody coup in 1991.

International aid donors and human rights activists also say they fear the return of the institution could be divisive anddivert resources from more pressing challenges of rebuilding
after a 2010 earthquake killed more than 200,000 people.

The outgoing U.S. ambassador to Haiti, Kenneth Merten, said recently that Washington had no plans to help fund the army but would not interfere with Haiti's rights to set it up.

Martelly, acknowledged that some countries have been reluctant to contribute but maintained that a military force was necessary to replace U.N. troops when they leave.

"What we want to create is a force that will help with development, natural disasters, protecting our borders and supporting in security issues when the police are overwhelmed,"
Martelly told Reuters.

"We are talking to other partners that had concerns, particularly because of past practices of the Haitian military that were involved in human rights abuses and coups," he added.

Martelly said the current U.N. stabilization mission can be considered a success only when it departs the island, leaving behind a peaceful and stable environment.

Haiti's Defense Minister Rodolphe Joazile said Haiti's plan did not signify any sidelining of international efforts to reinforce its civilian police.

"President Martelly's plan is clear. It focuses on the reinforcement of the police, the setting up of the new force and a progressive and orderly withdrawal of U.N. troops," he said.

Due to financial constraints the army would be relaunched with only about 1,500 troops, Joazile said.


Haiti was not ready to announce a cost for the new force or a timetable for its launch, because the support of other possible partners was being evaluated, he said.

Joazile, who accompanied Martelly during an official trip to Ecuador earlier this month, said Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, committed to providing support for the military plan.

"He said it very clearly to President Martelly during his last visit to Ecuador," Joazile told Reuters.
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Posted: 31 July 2012 07:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.
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Posted: 31 July 2012 07:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol
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Posted: 31 July 2012 07:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.
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Posted: 31 July 2012 08:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Benz - 31 July 2012 07:55 PM
ayitilights - 31 July 2012 07:37 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.


Minustah is supervised by the United nations.......not the same as brazil or ecuador in charge.
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Posted: 31 July 2012 08:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.


Minustah is supervised by the United nations.......not the same as brazil or ecuador in charge.


Force commanders of the MINUSTAH military component:

Army General Augusto Heleno Ribeiro Pereira, Brazil, 2004 to August 2005
Divisional General Urano Teixeira da Matta Bacellar, Brazil, September 2005 to January 2006.[59]
General Eduardo Aldunate Hermann, Chile, January 2006 (interim appointment).
Divisional General José Elito Carvalho Siqueira, Brazil, January 2006 to January 2007.[60]
Brigadier General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz, Brazil, January 2007 to April, 2009.[61]
Brigadier General Floriano Peixoto Vieira Neto, Brazil, April, 2009 to March 2010.
Brigadier General Luiz Guilherme Paul Cruz, Brazil, March, 2010 to March 2011
Brigadier General Luiz Eduardo Ramos Baptista Pereira, Brazil, March, 2011 to March 2012
Brigadier General Fernando Rodrigues Goulart, Brazil, March 2012 to present
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Posted: 31 July 2012 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Benz - 31 July 2012 08:14 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 08:07 PM
Benz - 31 July 2012 07:55 PM
ayitilights - 31 July 2012 07:37 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.


Minustah is supervised by the United nations.......not the same as brazil or ecuador in charge.


Force commanders of the MINUSTAH military component:

Army General Augusto Heleno Ribeiro Pereira, Brazil, 2004 to August 2005
Divisional General Urano Teixeira da Matta Bacellar, Brazil, September 2005 to January 2006.[59]
General Eduardo Aldunate Hermann, Chile, January 2006 (interim appointment).
Divisional General José Elito Carvalho Siqueira, Brazil, January 2006 to January 2007.[60]
Brigadier General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz, Brazil, January 2007 to April, 2009.[61]
Brigadier General Floriano Peixoto Vieira Neto, Brazil, April, 2009 to March 2010.
Brigadier General Luiz Guilherme Paul Cruz, Brazil, March, 2010 to March 2011
Brigadier General Luiz Eduardo Ramos Baptista Pereira, Brazil, March, 2011 to March 2012
Brigadier General Fernando Rodrigues Goulart, Brazil, March 2012 to present


Yes and they still answer to the UN.
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Posted: 31 July 2012 08:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 08:07 PM
Benz - 31 July 2012 07:55 PM
ayitilights - 31 July 2012 07:37 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.


Minustah is supervised by the United nations.......not the same as brazil or ecuador in charge.


Force commanders of the MINUSTAH military component:

Army General Augusto Heleno Ribeiro Pereira, Brazil, 2004 to August 2005
Divisional General Urano Teixeira da Matta Bacellar, Brazil, September 2005 to January 2006.[59]
General Eduardo Aldunate Hermann, Chile, January 2006 (interim appointment).
Divisional General José Elito Carvalho Siqueira, Brazil, January 2006 to January 2007.[60]
Brigadier General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz, Brazil, January 2007 to April, 2009.[61]
Brigadier General Floriano Peixoto Vieira Neto, Brazil, April, 2009 to March 2010.
Brigadier General Luiz Guilherme Paul Cruz, Brazil, March, 2010 to March 2011
Brigadier General Luiz Eduardo Ramos Baptista Pereira, Brazil, March, 2011 to March 2012
Brigadier General Fernando Rodrigues Goulart, Brazil, March 2012 to present


Yes and they still answer to the UN.


lol...yeah right/
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Posted: 31 July 2012 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Benz - 31 July 2012 07:00 PM
By Joseph Guyler Delva

PORT-AU-PRINCE, July 30 (Reuters) - Brazil and Ecuador have agreed to help Haiti set up a new army that will eventually replace the U.N. peacekeeping force that has protected the
impoverished Caribbean nation on and off since 1994, officials say.

Haiti's President Michel Martelly has been pushing the idea of reconstituting the army for almost a year, saying Haitianswould prefer to have their country protected by its own troops
rather than United Nations soldiers deployed in Haiti.

Brazil's Defense Ministry confirmed it was prepared to help Haiti in everything it needs to restore its army, includingmilitary training and engineering. Ecuador has also pledged its
support, a defense ministry official said.

"Brazil will give all its know-how to help Haiti rebuild its army," a defense ministry spokesperson told Reuters.

Brazil, which heads the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Haiti, will send a military team to Haiti in the next two to three weeks to assess the situation, the spokesperson said.

Martelly personally requested Brazil's support during a visit by President Dilma Rousseff to Haiti earlier this year, officials said. An agreement was made in Brasilia last week
during a meeting of Haiti and Brazil's defense ministers.

U.S. and U.N. officials are concerned that restoring the army could undermine international efforts to train and equip a new civilian police force, a key goal of the U.N. mission in
Haiti. Critics also point to the Haitian Army's appalling human rights record, including a bloody coup in 1991.

International aid donors and human rights activists also say they fear the return of the institution could be divisive anddivert resources from more pressing challenges of rebuilding
after a 2010 earthquake killed more than 200,000 people.

The outgoing U.S. ambassador to Haiti, Kenneth Merten, said recently that Washington had no plans to help fund the army but would not interfere with Haiti's rights to set it up.

Martelly, acknowledged that some countries have been reluctant to contribute but maintained that a military force was necessary to replace U.N. troops when they leave.

"What we want to create is a force that will help with development, natural disasters, protecting our borders and supporting in security issues when the police are overwhelmed,"
Martelly told Reuters.

"We are talking to other partners that had concerns, particularly because of past practices of the Haitian military that were involved in human rights abuses and coups," he added.

Martelly said the current U.N. stabilization mission can be considered a success only when it departs the island, leaving behind a peaceful and stable environment.

Haiti's Defense Minister Rodolphe Joazile said Haiti's plan did not signify any sidelining of international efforts to reinforce its civilian police.

"President Martelly's plan is clear. It focuses on the reinforcement of the police, the setting up of the new force and a progressive and orderly withdrawal of U.N. troops," he said.

Due to financial constraints the army would be relaunched with only about 1,500 troops, Joazile said.


Haiti was not ready to announce a cost for the new force or a timetable for its launch, because the support of other possible partners was being evaluated, he said.

Joazile, who accompanied Martelly during an official trip to Ecuador earlier this month, said Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, committed to providing support for the military plan.

"He said it very clearly to President Martelly during his last visit to Ecuador," Joazile told Reuters.
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Posted: 01 August 2012 08:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Benz - 31 July 2012 08:25 PM
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Benz - 31 July 2012 08:14 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 08:07 PM
Benz - 31 July 2012 07:55 PM
ayitilights - 31 July 2012 07:37 PM
Jesus Christ - 31 July 2012 07:34 PM
If you think haiti was bad under yankee tutelage.......just wait for the south americans.


Well this is new.

Can't wait to see this. lol


Minustah has been there since 04.


Minustah is supervised by the United nations.......not the same as brazil or ecuador in charge.


Force commanders of the MINUSTAH military component:

Army General Augusto Heleno Ribeiro Pereira, Brazil, 2004 to August 2005
Divisional General Urano Teixeira da Matta Bacellar, Brazil, September 2005 to January 2006.[59]
General Eduardo Aldunate Hermann, Chile, January 2006 (interim appointment).
Divisional General José Elito Carvalho Siqueira, Brazil, January 2006 to January 2007.[60]
Brigadier General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz, Brazil, January 2007 to April, 2009.[61]
Brigadier General Floriano Peixoto Vieira Neto, Brazil, April, 2009 to March 2010.
Brigadier General Luiz Guilherme Paul Cruz, Brazil, March, 2010 to March 2011
Brigadier General Luiz Eduardo Ramos Baptista Pereira, Brazil, March, 2011 to March 2012
Brigadier General Fernando Rodrigues Goulart, Brazil, March 2012 to present


Yes and they still answer to the UN.


lol...yeah right/


Here's the deal on Ecuador's "peace keeping" industry:

equador1.jpg

They run a nice little "business" off of the UN paying them money to perform "peace keeping" in 3rd world nations.

Check out their military infrastructure:

equador.jpg

What a joke!

But more importantly is that President Correa is a devout socialist who despises capitalism, loves Chavez and Ahmadinejad, hates the USA and loves ALBA.

So, instead of using the US military for training and development, we'll use this nut and his rag-tag group of thugs to train our thugs on how to create a tonton macoute.
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Posted: 02 August 2012 09:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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One thing is for certain, we don't want the Frech army:

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