 Oh man! I read what the original poster wrote and I was all for it until the uncivilized Haitian slave thing. OH MY GOSH! These runaways were runaways! How the hell does one run away in a so called civil manner. There is no such a thing! When you are running away you are running away! There is no set rules for running away from slavery? So many Haitians need to go back into physical slavery just to see how it was so they can learn something my goodness! What is worse is it turns into a YOU SEE HAITIANS CAN'T DO THIS AND THAT CRAP POST! So just because a whole bunch of Haitians disagree with you and agree with Kreyolbro they have to be kissing up to him? Oh noooooooo! Now you have to learn when people think you are wrong or if they are siding with somebody because they like that person. I've been in debates with kreyolbro before so everybody here who is not new knows that I do not kiss boudas on this site. So me agreeing with Kreyolbro wholeheartedly has to do with your ignorant comment. It almost breaks my heart but i'm going to try to keep my emotions inside and just SCHOOL you on what you said wrong.
You can say that Haitians acted uncivilized by pushing each other causing fights yes. There is nothing wrong with that. However, you had to use the runaway slaves analagy that totally showed disrespect towards our ancestors. Now original poster, nobody ever said there were rules to war! The blanc blowing up the slaves with the cannons who were supposed to be peaceful christians and the slaves who are escaping for their lives with their spirituality through vodou, which one is civil? Do you mean to tell me that the person who is trying to keep the person enslaved who happens to be in a religion that abhors slavery is actually the civilized one? So because our ancestors practiced vodou their runaway method was uncivilized? My friend, go over what you said because I want you to understand why so many people are against what you said!
Now let's visit the posts after. Now you are bringing the phrase "this is why Haitians" and adding whatever to it. You see, maybe we should turn this on you. Maybe if more Haitians respected vodou and learned about it, respected their ancestors and actually learned about their struggles we would not be in such a mess. Maybe if we tried not to use everything African about our culture as a negative aspect of who we are, we would not hate ourselves so much! You started the post with so much positive and mentioned one line that basically tore up everything you said prior to it. YOU JUST SHOULD NOT SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO RAN FOR THEIR LIVES! What made it worse is that you had to start explaining why these people were so uncivilized. You then used vodou in a deragatory matter and you put the slaves on the side of the uncivilized and put the blancs as the okays. So if you were in the place of these people, just tell me exactly how you would run? Tell me, if you did not know how to drive a car, would you drive away from a city about to be hit by a hurricane? Then please tell me how runaway slaves could have used guns if they were never shown how to use them. So does that make a person who is not a driver uncivilized because he or she chooses to take public transportation? This is terrible, terrible. This is terrible especially when we are approaching 200 years since we were successful in gaining our independence because of these runaways! So tell me, when you see the statue of the unknown slave fighter, do you see an uncivilized man, a bosal?
I truly hope that we can start understanding that sometimes when a group of Haitians disagree with something said that maybe it is in fact something negative towards Haitians. If we keep believing that Haitians are opposing something said because they are just terrible people then what does that say about our credibility in anything. If we do not believe that we have a reason to oppose something then why should we even have a voice? Please, what was said was a discouragement to any progressive Haitian who respects his or her background, loves and respects his or her ancestors for what they did for us, and those of us who are tired of hearing or reading vodou being used in a derogatory matter.
Maybe when we begin to respect ourselves and our background, we can begin to move on. Maybe one day people will see that we can actually use vodou's herbs to benefit our society and make money selling "folk medicine" to foreigners. Maybe we will begin playing the music beats alot more and develop more rhythms. Maybe just maybe someday those of us who do not believe in the lwa can see them as our ancestors mythology just as Europeans see the ancient Roman and Greek religions as mythology. If they can respect hercules so much to make a show about it then we can respect ogou. If they can have enough respect to have stories about Zeus, ahprodite and athena, we can have stories about obatala, erzili, agwe taroyo, dambala wedo and simbi amongst others. Let's start respecting ourselves please. I don't care too much about a labor day parade and if the jamaicans or bajans or trinis liked us personally. I care about us liking ourselves, our background. Si neg nwa te bay ko yo valeur things would be so different.
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The most effective policy towards Haiti is that of the Haitian people
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Topic: THE LABOR DAY AWARDS
