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Haiti Steps Up Fight for $22 Billion from France
Wed Nov 19, 8:07 AM ET

By Amy Bracken

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (Reuters) - It's hard to listen to Haitian radio or watch Haitian television these days without hearing the uplifting government public service announcement song that goes: "We demand reparations, restitution. France, pay me my money, $21,685,135,571.48."

 

The television images show people in African clothing dancing and working in fields, the Eiffel Tower, infrastructure such as a dam and buildings and stacks of dollar bills.

Haiti is making serious efforts to get France to pay restitution of nearly $22 billion, according to Haitian Foreign Minister Joseph Antonio.

France colonized the Caribbean nation in the 17th century and imported African slaves to work the sugar cane and coffee plantations. The slaves rebelled, killing or driving out their French rulers, and Haiti declared independence in 1804.

France demanded 150 million francs, worth about $28.3 million today, as compensation for the loss of its colony and the Haitian government paid 90 million of that, enough to plunge the country deeply into debt for decades.

"It was not enough to have taken up arms in the struggle for independence," wrote Haitian novelist Jean Metellus in a historical essay. "It had to be paid for, too, and it's cost was high."

In April, President Jean-Bertrand demanded that France pay restitution, specifying the above sum, which takes into account inflation and interest.

After first refusing to discuss the matter, French President Jacques Chirac finally appointed Regis Debray, a left-wing intellectual, to head a commission to investigate the possibility of restitution.

With an invitation from the French Institute of Haiti, Debray held a conference in Port-au-Prince last month in which he made no promises about restitution but convinced attendants that France is seriously considering the matter.

ALL BUT THE 48 CENTS

Aristide held a three-day international colloquium in October to discuss the matter. It overlapped with the anniversary of Aristide's 1994 return to Haiti under U.S. military protection, which came three years after a coup drove him out.

"If on October 15, 1994, the impossible became possible, when it comes to restitution, the impossible will be possible," Aristide said.

The colloquium featured artistic entertainment, including a Haitian rapper chanting in Creole slang, "Lafrans kale m lamama m," or "France, give me my money."

Some critics believe the money, if paid, would go to waste in a government they view as corrupt. The running joke is that France agreed to pay the entire sum except for the 48 cents, to which Aristide replied, "But then what will be left for the people?"

Others say the government's approach will fail to persuade France, or that the discussion itself will hurt relations between the two countries.

But many are hopeful about the prospective cash flow, while recognizing the process could take years and the sum could be altered.

"I'm optimistic because it's a just fight," said Joseph Antonio. "When the fight is just, you always end up winning ... When is another question."

 

'MEAN OLD COLONIST'

Evans Paul, head of the opposition Convention for Democratic Unity party, agreed it is a just cause but doesn't think it can be won. He called the president's public and confrontational approach to the issue "political propaganda."

Paul said Aristide "gives the impression that France is a mean old colonist," something he doesn't expect France to respond well to. Paul advocates working with France to find the right moment and conditions for restitution.

"Mr. Paul is not the only one to think that way," said government spokesman Mario Dupuy. "There are some people who think (the president) should do this in private, above the population, which is to say behind the back of the population. But the president has adopted a transparent and public path with the population because ... demanding restitution is for the population."

But some feel that the entire process is a mistake. When Lionel Etienne, a Haitian who heads the French-Haitian Chamber of Commerce ( face=Arial color=#0000ff news - face=Arial color=#0000ff web sites), heard about the government's plans to demand restitution, he said, "It was like finding a hair in my soup."

Etienne believes that further developing diplomatic and economic ties between the two countries is far more productive than demanding money.

"France is our port of entry into Europe, and I think it's a shame to put in question our relationship with France" by reducing it to a demand for restitution, he said. "It's a combative undertaking."

Indeed, as the country prepares for the January bicentennial of its victory over France in the battle for independence, the political language, especially in reference to restitution, is full of bellicose terms -- "combat," "fight," "struggle" and "battle."

The demand for restitution may turn out to be the ultimate revolutionary war re-enactment in Haiti.



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 france should restitute haiti the whole amount without any condition,france is the most racist country in the world,killing a lot of inocent imported africans.

when haiti gets that money,it will be a wonderful country,les misery,more umployement ,more literate,more infrastucture,ect.

if i don't see it,the next generation will.

 neg jeremi ki la.1804----2004

 proud to bee haitian for ever.


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Diviser pour Regner, Divide to conquer is the French strategy used for centuries. In Haiti they take avantage of the division, hate the only common denominator among the Opposition to push their agenda. It is with great sadness that one reads these zombies. The Haitian people is taking note. Shame on the French criminals and their assosiates. 

Daniel Ulysse  


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Daniel, you're a great observer and one hell of an analyst!

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Tibob fre moin si ou pa kon nage yap fout koule ou amba dlo pou touye ou. Se pa jwet ti moun non kap joue la blan yo simin ampil kob pou fe ne depale. Fok nou analize, fok nou veye priye. Ziye nou gran louvri Tibob.

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what the f**k aristide demanding shtt for haiti looks like caca and smells like it to the country been in poverty fo years the money will be used for the wrong causes anywayz so whats the point aristide needs to demand his own death

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Oh guest  you are very Intelligent bravo! You should also write it in French to your people in the "anti-Aristide church" Again very smart, very articulate answer. You are wonderful full of love, joy and kindness Happy Thanksgiving my dear. Please continue to write We learn a lot from your response.

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Salut nèg Jeremi,

Bèl gason, santimantal, fier. Depi w se nèg Jeremie ou se yon bonbon zenzenn. Ou pa pral nan fèt St-Louis l'annee prochaine? Si tu y irras fais-moi signe epi n'a kwaze anba-a.

La belle Jérémienne.


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