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Message posted by danny865 on December-22-2003 at 8:25pm - IP Logged
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Hi all,

I know you all missed me.  Well, Its me, Dominican Danny.

Since many Haitians are interested in knowing more about the Dominican sentiment on Haitians, I went to another forum, and posted a poll.  This poll asked the following questions:

1) I hate Haitians because of their color

2) I hate Haitians because of our history

3) I do not hate Haitians, I trust them

4) I do not hate Haitians, but I dont trust them

After waiting, and waiting, and posting and posting I came up with the following numbers.

1) 0%

2) 0%

3) 62.5 %

4) 37.5%

The responce was not overwhelming, but I believe it was enough to get a sence of what the Dominican sentiment is.  As you can see most Dominicans do not hate Haitians, but some do not trust Haitians, I believe its a result of our history.  This has created FEAR among Dominicans.  Furthermore, it has also created fear among the Haitians.



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Well Danny...why don't you post the same poll here asking us about how we feel about Dominicans.  By the way, how many people responded?

kreyolbro@aol.com

 


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The response was 8 people.  I calculate the forum has about 100 people, so about an 8% estimated.  But I will do it here on Haitixchange also.

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Danny, nice try, but your poll was hardly scientfiic. First of all, the wording of the questions could have been a little better, and secondly, 8 responses is not a large enough sample to make any kind of broad conclusion.

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Danny, what is the name of the forum you went to?...I once visited DR1.com's forum for about a week and I would dare you to post that there...it wouldn't last a day in the debate section because the uptight moderator would come in and say "this is not a Haitian forum...thread closed"...they are some real ignorants in there...but I have a feeling from the two or three threads I started in there that most of the uptights are older then 35...there were some positive replies to what I posted or some that sounded like they were defending my views, but those were either younger or Black Americans who have been to DR and sees the different ways they get treated once they are found to be Americans.

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I think the whole, do "all Dominicans Hate Haitians thing" is over blown like much of the issues discused on HaitiXchange.  How are ALLL Dominicans going to Hate Haitians?!  So you think there is not one Dominican on earth who doesnt give a sh!!!t about history and has a mind of his own and probably even a Haitian girlfreind or boyfreind.  I wont say that Kreyol Bro doesnt have a Dominican counter part, of course he has many, but most of them have the same level of nationalistic awarenes and pride( this is a spacific group of people).  What are Dominicans, what planet do they come from, planet "HateallHatians".  Kokorat wants to kno if the questions could have been phrase a little better, Dannys questions follow the same line as a Sakapfet poll or any other survey or poll ive ever seen, and secondly his questions are a thousand times better then a st-U-pid question like "do All Dominican's Hate Haitians".  Actually it' makes more sense then a thousand times cuzz im shure that out of all the millions and millions of Dominicans there are way more then a thousand that dont hate us.  The poll is a liveing testiment to how emotional, overblown and dramtic Haitians are.  I think people are just mad that after about 15 pages of ranting, raveing and going crazy on that one thread, they couldnt find not one Dominican that would justify there crazy, ranting and raveing.  It's pretty disapointing.  It's also ironic that the person that is trying to bring us back from our exagerated mind state is a Dominican.

So you were on a Dominican site and some uptight moderator said this is not a Haitian forum ~li bien fet! Sometimes I feeli like saying the same thing on this site. What the hell we always worrying about them for anyway?  Why should they want to talk about us and who cares, what are we looking for, belonging or someone too accepts us and loves us?  What you doing spying on Dominicans anyway, if they want to talk about us, let them come up with the topic.  Dont let me go on that site and find a user named Dominican_Kangeroo, cuzz im going to assume it's Ape_Man.

 

     Oh yeah, im playing Grand theft auto, Vice city, and im enjoying it..hehe.

 

 

                          



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Patati,

You think everything is overblown, yet you tend to write the longest and most emotional repsonses.

Haiti and the DR share the same land and many Haitians are dependent on the DR to a level you would not believe and on top of that, are treated terribly once they are there. Ask those people "who cares what Dominicans think?"

Also, who gives a rats ass if you play Vice City? You're not the person we're worried about.



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I think that happens everywhere, the mistreatment thing.  If haitians go to DR, they get mistreated, if Dominicans go to PR, they get mistreated.  I think one of the main reason is the status.  If a rich Haitian went over to DR to study or whatever, he/she would not encounter this.  Same goes for a Dominican going to PR, etc, etc..

 

Danny



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I actually think most issues are over blown not everything, "Vice city" is a prime example, im with Chemin on that one, I think if we organized our selves and displayed the same tenacity towards other problems we would be a little better off.

Long, emotional responses?  I didnt think it was emotional at all.

Thanks for letting me know that Haiti and the DR share the same land, im shure HaitiXchange and myself will both benifit from this groundbreaking information.

I know about Haitians in the DR and I am sensitive to the plight of Haitians anywhere.  But I do not have to go the DR to know they are treated badly.  It doesnt surprise me attall, in fact I would be surprised if they were treated well.  I dont think Dominican refugees are treated well in Puerto-Rico, people from Guatamala who go to Mexico to work are treated like crap also, this is a common occurence.  When one nation doesnt have it's sh!t together, it becomes subject to abuse by other nations.  If I heard that 200,000 Dominicans wanted to come live in Haiti, I wouldnt be happy, my response would be "cote nou pral met moun sa yo, pou ki sa yo pa ret la kay yo"! So im going to guess Dominicans feel the same way, much like the Bahamians.  My point is that if they never see us, where are they going to find us to treat us like crap.  The work should begin at home.

      Now I understand that the DR is using our situation to take advantage of us, my Grandmother told me that they come over the border with chemicals to kill our crops so they can sell us they're crops.  Im pretty shure the U.S. is backing the DR in the same way it backs the opposition in operation "Undermine Haiti Democracy".  I would love to see the day when Haiti can intelligently over come it's enemies.  It pains me that elected officials in Haiti are letting the DR use our land so it can set up shop and take advantage of us at a much closer range.  I guess when your in a subjugated state, you start to think of yourself in terms of that subjugation and begin to operate with in it.  The U.S. is a different story, but we gottta, I repeat we gotta let the DR know ki es ki bosss, cuzz obviously they dont know us and maybe we dont know us either.

The above is based on third world politics.  Now back to the issue.

    Do All Dominicans hate Haitians?

To me this is a stupid question.  As a human being, I know how to seperate politics from people and situations and assuming that most Dominicans are people, im pretty shure they do too.  If im playing basketball by myself and a Dominican wants to play me, im not going to say hell kno! or bring up History and politics.  Do I go seeking Dominican freindship, what for?  I dont see the point.  Do I care if Dominican's hate me, hell no, it dont stop me from makeing money. Most people on HaitiXchange are politicaly aware and the subjects run along lines that indicates something political, Most people arent like that. A Title "like Do all Dominicans hate Haitians" is ridiculous given that we live in a climate where a Haitian and a Dominican can be in the same class, both like Jay-Z, Roca-fella, 5o cents and smoking weed. There is to many unifying factors in urban America for this question to be legitimate and for the countless people who posted on there to take it seriously.  I dont like when people throw a big negative blanket over Haiti, or speak in such general terms with no regard for the particulars and nuances of the subject or situation.  Shure you may kno what you mean, but for the many who are new to this, impresionable and dont read between the lines, the title is way to inflamatory.



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