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Message posted by amberabdias on February-15-2004 at 8:18pm - IP Logged
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SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (Reuters) - The president of the Dominican Republic told the armed forces to detain any Haitian suspected of being part of the armed revolt against Haiti's President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, if they are found crossing into or out of the neighboring country.
President Hipolito Mejia said late on Saturday that his country, which shares the Caribbean island of Hispaniola with Haiti, was not going to be used to undermine Haiti's democracy.
"I have given instructions to the military for conspirators who either enter or leave the country to be detained. We cannot under any circumstances foster the process of undermining democracy in that country," he said.
"There will be no sponsoring of aggression against Haiti from the Dominican Republic side," Mejia said.
A Haitian paramilitary leader who had been hiding in the Dominican Republic has surfaced in Gonaives, the Haitian city where an armed gang threw out police and government authorities on Feb. 5 at the start of a revolt that spread to half a dozen towns.
Louis Jodel Chamblain, leader of the right-wing FRAPH militia that terrorized Haitians when a military junta ruled the country between 1991 and 1994, told Haitian radio on Saturday he had hooked up with rebels.
Mejia's government has in the past given asylum to several people accused by the Aristide government of being involved in plots against the Haitian government.
The Dominican Republic, like Haiti, has a troubled history of political upheavals. But in recent years it has enjoyed relative economic and political stability while Haiti has remained mired in poverty.
The revolt against Aristide, who is mid-way through a second term as president, came on top of months of protests against what critics condemn as corruption and mismanagement.
The Dominican Republic has put its armed forces at the border on alert because of the unrest in Haiti, in which up to 50 people have died. Officials said two Dominican soldiers were killed on Saturday at La Vigia, on the northern border with Haiti.
----------------- "All sins are attempts to fill voids." ~ Simone Weil, in Auden's _A Certain World_ |
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Message posted by Guest on February-17-2004 at 10:39am - IP Logged
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"White folks head the most powerful and richess countries in the world. It is important for Haiti (being a small poor country) to work alongside them in order to improve the lives of its citizens. "
The only time Haïtians said “NO” to the “White Man” was when we said “NO” to slavery. We are one of the most cooperative people on the planet and have nothing to show for it
"Haiti cannot get better on its own,"
Speaking for your self obviously. I am not a proponent of refuse and reject all contact; rather I would like a more selective approach and the freedom to “Haïtianize” whatever the hell they ask of us to do; ie: “do our own thing”.
"nor can it stand anymore punishment from the white man."
Then they should allow the Cubans and anyone else who would volunteer to help do so without regard to ideology.
"We as Haitians need to understand that. It is not a matter of degrading ourselves to the white man, it is more like knowing our limit as a nation (at this point)."
We are not exploring space nor do we want to be a super power. Our current goals are very limited to the basics: Food; Shelter; Healthcare; Education. Now you would deny us the right to dream beyond those necessities. |
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Message posted by Guest on February-17-2004 at 1:00pm - IP Logged
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How does funding for FRAPH help? How does refusing to recognize a duly elected government help? How does witholding aid help? Should I go on? What's left to say: F*** them if they can't take a joke. |
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Message posted by Ape_man on February-18-2004 at 12:49am - IP Logged
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every country in the West Indies need to suck up to white countries for survival one way or another...Latin American does it all day everyday and they are prospering, those that dont drag their feet...after you get passed all the pride and look at reality, you realize you do need to be obediant to an extent if you are to ever make it...Haiti is the basket case of all nations, though we have suken to a place where hope is so far away it can hardly be seen, we still maintain this pride that does't allow us to rub shoulders with our peers and at the same time some say we dont need whites, so if you dont need white, nor blacks, how are you going to make it? we tried, we were forced into isolation for 200 years and I dont see the fruit of that, so how will you make it?...let's stop kidding ourselves...we need whites to make it |
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Message posted by amberabdias on February-18-2004 at 11:17pm - IP Logged
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Posted on Wed, Feb. 18, 2004 Official: Aristide Rejects Calls for early Vote
GEORGE GEDDA Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide has rebuffed Bush administration suggestions that he convene early presidential elections as a way to defuse the country's accelerating political crisis, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday.
While rejecting any Haitian opposition efforts to remove Aristide by force, administration officials are privately discussing ideas for a possible constitutional succession before Aristide's term expires in February 2006.
U.S. officials worry that the current crisis would only worsen if Aristide is forced to flee. One option being discussed internally is a transfer of power, with Aristide's consent, to a temporary governing board made up of Haitians who would run the country until a new president was elected.
It is not clear how much support that proposal has at top levels of the administration.
Haitian government spokesman Mario Dupuy said Port-au-Prince, the capital, that his government could not accept any proposal involving a change in the election date or an early handoff of power.
"I can neither confirm nor deny that any such offer was made, formally or informally," he said. "But both proposals are unacceptable. They are tantamount to admitting the legitimacy of a coup d'etat against the government."
Aristide was elected to a five-year term in December 2000. He has said repeatedly that he intends to serve out his full term. The Haitian constitution says the head of the Supreme Court is next in line in the event the presidency is vacated.
U.S. interagency meetings on what to do about the situation in Haiti include representatives from the Homeland Security Department and the Coast Guard, the senior U.S. official said, asking not to be identified. This is an indication that officials are concerned about a possible new Haitian refugee crisis.
A sudden surge in boat-building by individual Haitians would be a sure sign of preparations for an escape from the impoverished country, but U.S. officials say they detect no such activity on a meaningful scale. They caution that Aristide's forced removal could provoke as mass exodus as rival groups compete to fill the power vacuum.
Tens of thousands of Haitians fled during the era of the military junta that deposed Aristide. The military ran the country for three years before the U.S. military reinstated Aristide in 1994.
Secretary of State Colin Powell says the administration has "no enthusiasm" for a new military intervention. But Marine Corps Commandant Michael Hagee said Wednesday the U.S. military is upgrading contingency plans, which he described as a normal process in unstable situations.
Aristide enjoyed wide political support both here and in Haiti when he was reinstated in October 1994. Among his strongest backers was the Congressional Black Caucus. There is little overt backing by the group for Aristide now but there have been expressions of concern that the administration may be seeking Aristide's ouster by unconstitutional means.
Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., who often speaks out on human rights issues on behalf of the black caucus, said in a Feb. 11 letter to Powell that there is "a violent coup d'etat in the making, and it appears that the United States is aiding and abetting the attempt to violently topple the Aristide Government."
The administration has repeatedly called for a political solution to the crisis. The mediation effort is being led by Caribbean nations and the Organization of American States.
The decline of support for Aristide among black U.S. lawmakers has been coupled with growing disaffection for Aristide among Haiti's Caribbean neighbors.
Last Friday, Powell made clear his impatience with Aristide and suggested that the Haitian leader is backed by disreputable elements.
"We need him to start taking action, to reach out to the opposition, to make sure that thugs are not allowed to break up peaceful demonstrations," he said.
TransAfrica, a Washington-based group that monitors U.S. policy toward Africa and the Caribbean, said in a statement Tuesday the administration should halt its "contemptuous attitude toward President Aristide" and focus on a negotiated settlement |
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Message posted by amberabdias on February-19-2004 at 3:16pm - IP Logged
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A Way Out for Haiti
(From the editorial section Of the NY Times)
February 19, 2004 By JAMES DOBBINS
ARLINGTON, Va. Ever since President Woodrow Wilson sent in the Marines in 1915, the United States has made intermittent - and sometimes inconsistent - efforts to bring about stability, democracy and prosperity in Haiti. The last decade, especially, has seen striking examples of contradictory American policy, and the cumulative result has been economic stagnation and turmoil in Haiti, where more than 40 people have died during an uprising this month.
American policy on Haiti in the last 10 years has gone from one extreme to another. The Clinton administration strongly supported the ousted president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, sending 20,000 troops in 1994 to restore him to power. The current administration then cut off all American assistance to the Aristide government while giving advice and moral support to Mr. Aristide's opponents. Entrenched in their own economic and political divisions, Haitians tend to regard politics as an all-or-nothing, life-and-death struggle. The more support one side or the other has received from its partisans in Washington, the less inclined it has been to compromise.
If the United States is to help Haiti overcome its crisis through dialogue and reconciliation, therefore, Republicans and Democrats have to reconcile their own differences. And this may indeed be happening.
Secretary of State Colin Powell ended an apparent administration flirtation with a coup in Haiti, stating clearly on Tuesday that Mr. Aristide should finish his term. The Bush administration has concluded that Mr. Aristide, however flawed he may be, is the only legitimately elected leader in Haiti, and perhaps the sole remaining source of stability.
At the same time, Mr. Aristide's American supporters recognize his responsibility for the crisis and would like to see Haiti make a new start. Prominent African-Americans like the Rev. Walter Fauntroy, president of the National Black Leadership Roundtable, have suggested that Mr. Aristide should step down now.
This convergence of American opinion on Haiti offers the prospect of a more united and thus more effective American approach. The next step should be for leaders on both sides of the aisle to collaborate on a new strategy for Haiti. Such a strategy could be based on these elements:
• Mr. Aristide should serve out his term, which expires in 2006. But at the same time, we need to prepare the succession. It will take at least the two years Mr. Aristide has left in office to organize fair elections. Major American and international efforts to do so should begin now.
• The international community, either the United Nations or the Organization of American States, should administer the balloting, not just offer assistance. No Haitian government will be able to organize elections with even minimal standards of fairness.
• Haiti should get much more help. This year the United States will give Baghdad 200 times more economic assistance than it will to Haiti, which is in much worse shape than Iraq even after the invasion. We must pay greater attention to a desperately poor, misgoverned nation in our backyard.
• Some of this foreign aid should go toward strengthening Haitian institutions. Even the Clinton administration preferred to channel American aid through nongovernmental organizations, fearing that any money given to the Haitian government would be misspent. But no Haitian leader or leaders, however good their intentions, will be able to govern wisely if they have no institutions to rely on. We need to begin now to give Mr. Aristide's successors the wherewithal to govern.
• The United States should get directly involved in ending the impasse between Mr. Aristide and his opponents. The United Nations, the Organization of American States and the Caribbean Community, an organization of Caribbean states, can all play helpful roles, but only the United States has real influence in Haiti. A unified American stance could have a decisive impact, and a truly bipartisan diplomatic engagement now might still avoid the need for yet another military intervention.
It's often said that democracies end up doing the right thing only after having tried all the alternatives. We have tried the alternatives in Haiti and failed. Now we can see if doing the right thing will succeed.
James Dobbins, director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at RAND, was President Bill Clinton's special envoy for Haiti from 1994 to 1996.
----------------- "All sins are attempts to fill voids." ~ Simone Weil, in Auden's _A Certain World_ |
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