Chemin;  you still have not made a rational or legal argument to remove Aristide.   Ineptitude, bad government, accusations are not reasons to remove a head of state.   Again there are legal ways to achieve that goal when a crime or violation of the constitution has taken place.

Do you want a society of Law or do you want a new president every six months because people are unhappy.  Are there provisions to recall a president in the Haitian Constitution...let the opposition use that.

Of course the cannibal army is against him now; he is cracking down on them as demanded by the OAS, the US and the Opposition.   He could have let them run free and become his "Tonton macoutes".  About the Ouanaminthe project, no one in Haitian society has raised a voice against it.  He and apparently the Haitian ruling classes see the Dominican situation differently than I or you.  That does not make him a bad president.

If anyone thinks of Aristide as a messiah it is you and the people calling for his resignation.  Many of these people expected miracles with Aristide and are making the same mistake again by asking that he be replaced by another savior.

Finally the brightest of any society do not gravitate to politics; they go into business and other productive areas.  Don't expect the president of any country (the US included) to be among the smartest of that society.  Every now and then you get an exeption, but for the most part second rate bureaucrats make a career in politics.

That political class supported Aristide because they taught he would just be a figurehead "after all he is just a dark skinned man from the masses; a priest, he looks like a geran lakou as some have said" while they would run things.   When they realized this man was serious about being president, all hell broke loose.

They don't respect him, they never had.  They have succeded with the help of their foreign friends in blocking any move by his administration.  The hungry masses are tired and need relief; they want to eat, Aristide or no Aristide.   Yes he is caught between a rock and a hard place.   His gift to Haiti however is for him to stay on and finish his term.  Haitians of all stripes must learn to respect an electoral mandate.

If Aristide is such a problem, why are the Taiwanese, and now the Dominicans building factories.   What is keeping the Haitian business class from doing the same?  Hatred, prejudice, selfishness and lack of vision.

kreyolbro@aol.com

Trust me I do not see Aristide as any messiah. His resignation should be based on what the majority of the people want. How can we prove that he did or didn't do those things? I guess it goes both ways. I've always asked myself if he was so bad why did the Cubans, and Taiwanese support him. Well, I figured that the Cubans needed to get close to Haiti for the good of Cuba since Haiti is very near it. The Taiwanese want the Haitian UN vote as well as other countries they are working with so that they can be recognized as an independent country. As for the DR, we know that whatever they like is not really for the good for the Haitian people.

In a society of law, a president is supposed to be asked to resign when others are not happy with him.  Some people talk about impeaching Bush, thinking he lied about the WMD in Iraq.  Haiti has no system of checks and balances, so you have a populist party and a crappy opposition. 

Hmmm, I don't see how Metayer was killed as being a job being done for the OAS.  I understand if they would imprison him again. The shooting of the eyes are just a little bit too extreme, don't you think? 

Did you know what happened in Gonaives the last time Metayer was in jail?  find out.  You nd Kreyolbro keep mentoning the cannibal Army, i never heard thar term before, who are they?  Is that something new?

Tijou

Tijou you may want to buy a subcarrier radio that broadcast 24hrs Creole news & information on Haiti RadioSoleil/Radio Tropicale/Radio Lakay. There are WLIB 1190 Am Moment Creole Sundays 10AM to noon, Perpective Haitienne and Radio Samba on WNYE 91.5 FM just to name a few of the radio that inform you on Haiti. The Carnibal Army is a group of men from Gonaives led by the late Mr. Amiot Meteyer who supported President Aristide just like many people from the slums of Cite Soleil and other deprived areas of the country. The Opposition has Mr. Jean Tatoune leader of "Lame San Manman"  One night during a tour of Haitian sites I found  www.haitiobservateur.com a site based in Miami dedicated to the anti-Aristide campaign. They even made a web site for Jean Tatoune and later cut ties with him when he joined forces with Meteyer to support Aristide. There are several South Fla Haitian radio programs linked to that site, incredible things are happening in Florida! Later I heard a host interviewing Tatoune asking him if had received the arms they have sent him. Tatoune declined to answer on the air. I am sure thousand of listeners in Fla heard the interview, hum! here in the US over the airwaves monitored by the Federal Communications Commission. These are facts that can be verrified. In this climate of vigourous anti terrorist efforts by the Bush administration guys go on the air to insite riots to ask people to take arms to overthrow Aristide, discuss things things that are against FCC rules openly on their shows. See it's OK, everything is permissible they are building democracy saving Haiti from Aristide, it from their camp it doesn't make front page, doesn't get anyone's attention. Also there is in South Fla a group from the MRE who is behind the turbulence in Haiti. For the most part they are of foreign descend with nothing to do with the African-Haitians, look at their site www.moun.com  I don't want to go too far into details you have no ideas what have been plotted against Haiti. These guys hate Aristide, they resent the fact that he is still around and double their effort to destroy him.  Chemin my friend I wonder where you get this line from a PrIn a society of law president is supposed to be asked to resign when others are not happy! We are still opressed, still paying for that independence. Today more than ever more effort have been put forth to have us forget about this proud line first black republic. We no longer hear "Haiti La perle des Antilles, La Citadelle 8eme merveille du monde" we hear the poorest nation of the Western hemisphere and if we continue to act stupid and refuse to solve our differences we will be also known as the country who is occupied on his 200 years of indepence. I say it loud and clear people wake up and stop that non sense. It's not about Lavalas or the Opposition but about Haiti. I am praying for a miracle for I know God will save Haiti. I suggest that at least you guys call a cease fire and prepare the bicentennial commemoration. Our political craps will always be around.

Daniel Ulysse  

Tijou,  the last time he was in jail his partisan broke down the prison wall and set him free.  They refer to themselves as the cannibal army.

Flambert,  "in a society of law, a president is supposed to be asked to resign when others are not happy with him"   you've lost me.   Maybe someone who understands that line can respond.  

kreyolbro@aol.com

Oh sorry people, that line that you refer to was typed in correctly. I didn't type what I was thinking because I was rushing. What I meant was the president should be asked to resign when the majority starts to feel that he and his administration is not working well enough for them.   

LOL Ulysse, i've been to moun.com before. I was surprised to see such a weird Haitian site.  It is like a site that caters to all other nations. One of the men behind the site seems to be an Arabic Haitian who is pro-U.S. Lately, since the OAS has not been on the opposition's side, they have not been spitting out the pro American rhetoric so easily. You can see what Haiti has become. Basically, one group is angry at one group that is in power, so they want to use foreign assistance to quell any progress in their own country in order to steal the government. It is sad. The opposition is made up of a bunch of political parties that don't even have the same ideals.  None of them are pro- peuple. They are all the same.   Lavalasse themselves are divided, there are probably those trying to do good but many are corrupt. This won't help either!  Both the present government and the opposition are cancerous to Haiti.