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Subject Topic: Aristide est un Clone! Post Reply Post New Topic
Message posted by kreyolbro on March-17-2003 at 11:02pm - IP Logged
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Here is the deal;  Everything has been said, no one has anything new to add to the discourse.  Aristide is not moving until the end of his term and there will be no power sharing.  So stop babbling,  grab your guns and remove him by force, then someone else will remove you, and so on and so on.

Or you can do what intelligent people do in civilized countries; prepare for the next election which is only two years away.

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Two years is too long kreyolbro....

 


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Guest;  We have had almost 200 years of mismanagement; two years is a small price to pay for the greater cause of constitutionbal continuity.

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 small price to pay for constitutional continuity.

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Dear Kreyolbro,

It seems to me that you are " à court d'argument".  (in short of argument).

 I think we should have had this discussion before one dollar hit 55 gourdes in the Haitian money market. It would have been more realistic.

Why do you always have to defend Haitian101 positions? He is a big boy, I am sure he can defend himself.


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Dear Guest;    I am not saying everything or even most things are correct with the present Haitian administration.  I am simply making a plea for us to try something new; lets use the rule of law.  Unless we can prove, indict, and convict Aristide of breaking the law or violating the Constitution, he should finish his term.   Bad economic performance, mismanagement, or even failure to lead do not warrent removing a head of state.   Especially in Haiti where we will have such governments for a long time to come.  Most countries and most US cities have had corrupt governments for decades.   What is most important is to have a structure in place so when a leader falls the whole society does not fall into chaos.  Such is the strenght of institutions and the rule of law.

In a parlementary system you can have a vote of no confidence and change government or leader whithin a term.  I do not know if Haiti's system allows that; please inform me on that point.  Even if it did it would be difficult at this time with the Lavalas Party firmly in control. 

I see more danger in removing Aristide before his term than letting him exit in accordance with the constitution.  That civility and respect for the law is what has been missing from Haitian society.  I am not debating you on wheter there is a crisis or not.  There is a worldwide economic crisis at this time.  Falling currencies and high gas prices are not just occuring in Haiti.  More advanced countries such as Argentina, Brazil and others are dealing with the same economic headaches.  We simply differ on the way out of the present political situation; for the economic crisis will outlive Aristide.

As for defending Haitian 101; yes he is quite able to defend himself.  As participants of this open forum however, a personal attack on a member stating an opinion should be challenged.  I was simply asking the guest to share his/her views on the subject instead of his/her opinion of the person.

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Well, I guess we are getting somewhere Kreyolbro!

After all, this site will not only be known for its cute Haitian Carnival pictures or its nice DIASPORA visits with President Aristide.

Maybe... just maybe... there is hope for Haiti... with the Haitian diaspora...

Until the next time, Kreyolbro...

 


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The most positive contribution that Aristide has brought to our struggle is that he has put the "D" in democracy for us and the world. He teaches the imperialists, the elite and the like that in a democracy, the people rule. It is so true that if the people were not ruling, he would have been out-gone and replaced by a puppet long time ago.

We may not have roads, food, healthcare and everything else yet, but I think this is still reassurring to know that in spite of the suffering and the misery of the real Haitian people ( who are the ones in the misery and the suffering), they are not ready to sell out, to sell our almost only pride for now: being the first free black republic. That's all we've got.  They looted everything else. 

The biggest shame and outrage is that he and the people will never get the credit they deserve ;at least, not in this generation because he is black, a Haitian leader, third world and above all, because his origin is humble.  

P.S. No Electoral College could steal his votes. Beat that.

Prohaitisister

 


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My chose of words in saying “I think Aristide is the best thing that ever happened to Haiti” wasn’t exactly the best.  I’m very much alert of the fact that there are men and women out there that can and will get Haiti moving towards a better and brighter future.  I don’t fall in the “Haitian” mindset of thinking only one man can do the job.  My question is, why so much mud slinging toward the Lavalas party?  Everyday when I search for some good news coming out of Haiti, I’m hit with something negative.  The opposition or the convergence parties are riding of a bandwagon of negativity.

Like I stated in my last post, “I’m all ears” (I wasn’t being sarcastic).  If a particular group wants the Lavalas party out, show the supporters of the Lavalas party something that can change their minds.  Show a solid modern agenda that will be compatible with the rest of the Caribbean and the world.  Present someone who can unit the Haitian people or make us reach a point to compromise.  For the first time the poor people of Haiti has a voice.  Some roads has been built (not saying much more couldn’t be done) a well needed modernized bridge was built, Clinics and public places (parks) been built.  The Alphabetic program is teaching people who never thought they would be able to write their names, be able to read.  If you check this site on the “Diaspora month” you would be able to read and see the great plans for 2004.  Haiti has a Sanitation Program cleaning up the streets.  Protest in Haiti Starts and finishes with little or no violence, thanks to the police.

Never mind the above, but what are we the Diasporas doing? (My Opinion)>> I think all programs or projects in Haiti should be privatized.  That is how I think we the Diaspora can really get involve.



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