Bonjour à tous!

je me demande toujours comment un mulatre né à l'étranger se situe culturellement, il est certain que cela dépend de chaque mais il reste que la vision des noirs et des blancs a son égard n'aide pas à se forger une identité claire et précise, soit quil se considere plus haitien ou candien par exemple,

Moi par exemple je suis né au canada dun pere haitien et dune mere canadienne. par contre dès mon enfance jai toujours affectionner haiti a un point telle que je ne peut pas dire avec fierté que je suis canadien d'origine.

This is simple; you are whatever you think you are or whatever you are comfortable with. Being a "mulatre" should have nothing to do with it. Canada has "mulatres" and Haiti has "mulatres". If you are proud of your Haitian origins, then tell people you are Haitian and proud of it. No need for confusion here.

For  instance, as you can tell from my name, I am not a mulatre. I live in the US, my parents are Haitian, but I wasn't born in the US or Haiti. I tell people I am Haitian every chance I get because that is how I feel. I don't give myself the opportunity to let the whole issue throw me off or get me confused.

Se Ayisyen mwen ye...epi dats it!

Guest; two things are at issue here

You seem to be clear on your racial make up. Yes you are a person of mixed African and European ancestry. But then again more than 60% of people classified as "blacks" in North America have some degree of European blood.

In the US we don't have a distinct "mulatre" ethnic/racial classification. If I recall correctly, it is the same in Canada.  Any person with Negro blood is classified as black.  As NegNwe pointed out, almost every ethnic group in this hemisphere has "mulatres" in their population.

Your struggle appears to be with your cultural identity; Haitian, Canadian, Afro-Canadian, Haitian-Canadian.  People tend to identify with whatever culture they were raised in.  You are not alone; many non-mulatres born in Canada or the US of Haitian parents or Haitian/Other blacks parents also have to deal with this split allegiance.

My suggestion would be to simply enjoy all the cultures that made you who you are and settle whithin the one or two or three you are comfortable with. There is no need to limit yourself; your parents did'nt.

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neg mwe where were born?  je suis ne a Paris mais mes parents sont haitiens. j'habite a ny. quand on me demande ma nationalitee je leur dit que je suis haitienne. vca y est plus de question. il y a des fois on me crois pas mais ca vas.

Alors les mulatres vous n'avez rien a dire.

Salut tout l' monde!

Je suis haitienne et mon mari est américain. Nous vivons dans une Etat qui n'a pas beaucoup de noirs, Je les voie que rarement. Nous avons un enfant il a le tein de son père et il a même des cheuveux blonds. Quand je vais au travail je luisse avec ses grand-parents J'ai un malaise avec ça et j'ai peur qu'il va croire qu'il est blanc et va être raciste.

Salut tout le monde! Je viens d'ouvrir ce forum et le sujet me semble fort intéressant. J'ai déjà posté quelque chose à ce propos sur un autre forum (c'est an anglais). Je vais l'attacher ici et si vous voulez que je le traduise en français, faites-le moi savoir.

It's highly time that we let go of that traditional illusion that our ancestors are Africans and therefore we owe our appearance and everything else to Africa in gratitude for the past. For those of you who know the basics of Chemistry, when several elements are mixed to form a compound, the resulting composition becomes a NEW element with its unique properties.

For example, when we mix water and sugar, we obtain sugared water, a totally new element with its own characteristics, different from its constituents. Sugared water is neither water nor sugar. Of course some of its characteristics depend or come from its respective components.

My point is the following. Blacks, I'll use Haitians instead to better illustrate my approach, are a mixture of Africans, French, Spanish, Tainos, other Amerindians and Europeans, and -more recently- Americans, Chinese, Caucasians, Russians etc ... It was logical that Mackandal and Boukman in the late 1700s saw the black folks ot Saint-Domingue as 100% Africans.

But we can't ignore the impact of time and social evolution to keep that abherration going as if it is an unchangeable truth. Some of us are more European, more American, more White, more Caucasian than African in our very genetic and racial composition.

It's nonsense to pick an element of one's constituency and decide that the person must be just that for the sole sake of faithfulness to one portion of our past, disregarding all the other 'majority' components.

For a lot of blacks, being aware of the multiplicity of our racial texture is an act of betrayal, a move away from Africa. That's really absurd (I call it aggressive ignorance).

Hello! Let's evolve into what has been taking place. WE ARE WHAT WE BECOME, let's stop hanging to what we were as if time and social transformation have no effect on us. Social Darwinism advanced that an inferior community is one that fails to adapt to the new social reality. I am afraid our eyes are still in the back of our necks. Let's stop looking at us as what we once were. WE ARE WHAT WE HAVE BECOME!

We need to take into consideration all the adjustments that "being black" or "being Haitian" has evolved to mean through time. We are hurting ourselves ... we are killing ourselves. Our ancestors are not just the Africans, they are the Europeans too, the Chinese, the Amerindians, the Tainos in particular, the Spanish, the Americans ... the WHITE!

The Bible says: "my people perish by lack of knowledge". It is indeed true for blacks and Haitians.