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Message posted by Nadine on April-30-2004 at 4:17pm - IP Logged
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UN Votes to Send Troops to Haiti, Led By Brazil (Update2)
April 30 (Bloomberg) -- The United Nations Security Council voted 15 to 0 to send 8,322 soldiers and civilian police, led by Brazil, to Haiti for six months to rebuild the violence-plagued Caribbean nation, the Western Hemisphere's poorest.
Fighters who took control over northern Haiti and threatened to attack the capital of Port-au-Prince forced Jean-Bertrand Aristide from the presidency in February.
``We will be there for the long haul,'' said Ambassador Heraldo Munoz of Chile, a council member that will contribute to the UN force. ``We won't lose patience as we did in the past. We will stay until democracy is reinstated, along with the rule of law and a strong state.''
Brazilian Ambassador Ronaldo Sardenberg said his country would lead the mission and contribute 1,400 of the 6,700 troops, which will serve alongside 1,622 civilian police. Angola, Benin, Nepal and Pakistan are also planning to send troops or police to Haiti, according to Munoz, Sardenberg and French Ambassador Jean- Marc de La Sabliere.
Renewing the Mission
The Security Council authorized the force for six months, with an ``intent to renew for further periods,'' even after UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan recommended a two-year mandate. Council members said they wanted to review the mission with the Organization of American States and the Caribbean Community in a shorter period of time.
A force of more than 3,000 Canadian, Chilean, French and U.S. troops has provided security in Port-au-Prince and three northern cities since March 1, under a UN resolution.
Haiti has had a history of political instability since it declared independence from France in 1804 after a revolt by half a million black slaves. The nation had a per-capita economic output of $425 in 2002, and is beset with AIDS, illiteracy and drug trafficking.
An interim government is trying to improve living conditions in the country, where 52 percent of the 8 million people live on less than $1 a day.
`Bad Guys'
``The interim government doesn't have domestic or international political support and there are a lot of bad guys still running around the country with a lot of weapons,'' said Julia Sweig, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign relations, a policy analysis group. ``That is why the international community has to go there and stay.''
Sweig said Brazil's willingness to head the mission marks a change in the foreign policy of a nation whose $490 billion economy is South America's largest.
``The leadership of Brazil is very significant for the hemisphere because Brazil has had an inward-looking foreign policy, but is beginning to assert itself,'' Sweig said. ``Brazil sees itself as an emerging middle power, lobbying for a permanent seat on the Security Council and taking a leadership role as a counterweight to the U.S. and Mexico.''
The UN is having difficulty getting nations to contribute French-speaking civilian police to Haiti, where most people speak French, according to David Wimhurst, spokesman for the UN Department of Peacekeeping Operations.
``It will be a challenge,'' Wimhurst said. ``We need French- speaking police to interface with the people. We also have a mission in Ivory Coast and will have one in Burundi, both French- speaking nations, so it's not going to be easy.''
The mission to Haiti will be the UN's 15th. With missions to Burundi and Sudan under consideration, the number of troops wearing the UN blue helmets may increase to as much as 72,000 from 49,000 and the UN's peacekeeping budget may rise to $4.8 billion from $3.5 billion, Wimhurst said.
``With those numbers, it is normal that there might be some difficulty getting the necessary resources,'' German Ambassador Gunter Pleuger.
You guys, Do you think this will help? I am a little skeptical. I am not sure if this is enough to save Haiti or can it even help? We still need the Haitian elite to take responsible and help built the country.
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Message posted by Guest on April-30-2004 at 5:23pm - IP Logged
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| Ouvè zorey nou pou tande, all foreign troops, all colonials, their Haitian lackeys, missionaries and most of all that SOB James Foley, soti sou do peyim tande. Ayiti pou Ayisyen. |
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Message posted by Guest on May-02-2004 at 2:12pm - IP Logged
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| I don't care wether they stay or not as longer they pay the money. Did u guys know that latorue wathever is name is, says to forget about the money. I would tell u guys exactly y all of them at haiti right now, but I can't because we don't know who is checking those e-mail. |
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Message posted by Dman on May-03-2004 at 3:39am - IP Logged
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Brothers and sisters, we must express ourselves and stand up against this occupation. Its bad enough to be occupy but its even worst to have French troops coming back to soil Haiti. We must protest now otherwise the "friends of Haiti" will do even more harm to what is left to us as country. French flag will replace our bicolore and Cap Haitien will be Cap Francais. No other nation would accept this abomination, only Haitian. Prime Minister Latoprtue sounds just like the Haitian intellectuals who oppose the bicentennial commemoration of Haiti.
Latortue is wrong, he needs to think before speaking. Its Forget about Latortue not forget about the money. Its our money that French zenglendos stole et gun point after raping and killing thousand of our ancestors. they committed crimes against humanity. To me It is very embarrassing to hear and see people who were suppose to act as responsible leaders acting like uncle tom. Prime Minister Latortue Restitution has nothing to do with Lavalas Haiti needs real leaders people with dignity and pride to defend his interest. Latortue with all his diplomas, his many years of experience at the United Nations, living abroad needs Politics 101.
Only Latortue, only people with our mentality do sorry thing like that. We'll never hear President Bush or Prime Minister Ariel Sharon apologize for their country's enemies they know better. Haitian and Haitian American need to be more sophisticated more demanding.
Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame on you.
I have heard stories about Haitian leaders with serious drinking problem and a well known American President who was alcoholic serious hope that Prime Minister We are all responsible for our actions. The French did a number on us, They set up a trap for us. They carefully prepared this occupation. Lavalas and the Opposition couldn't put their difference on the side to find a common ground to save the country but they let the country down.
We need to regain our freedom, honor, dignity and pride. Its time for change an other generation of Haitians needs to rise up to save the country from these sorry situation.
French trrops must get the hell out of Haiti now!
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Message posted by Dman on May-06-2004 at 3:16am - IP Logged
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Sooner or later the people of Haiti will wake up. Their eyes will open. Today the real movers and shakers in Haiti are foreign diplomats, grand children of slave owners, sorry sold out Haitians, uncle toms, "Haitians" with no ties to Haiti (different culture, origin) racists colonizers who use Haiti as example to their French colonies seeking independence, Cuban-American-Republican Roger Noriega and his well known racist friend Jesse Helms & co.
HAITIAN PEDI TOUT RESPE, FIETE, LIBETE AK DIGNITE, FOK NOU SOTI AMBA LOKIPASYION SA KOUT KE KOUT. KOMPLO OPOSYSION MELE AK STUPIDITE LAVALAS KITE BLAN FRANSE AK AMERIKIN VIRE LOLOJ YO POU LAGE HAITI NAN MALPROPTE SAA. KOURI LAPLI TOMBE LARIVIE YO VOYE ARSISTID ALE EPI SE PI MAL KE AVAN. FOK NOU MANDE RESTITUTION, RESTITUTION SE PA POU NI ARISTID NI LATORTUE MIN POU PEP HAITIEN AN. FOK FRANSE PA KOMPRAN KE NOU TOUT SE MINM. MEZANMI GAD NAN KI SA NOU TOMBE.
ABA FOS OKIPASYION, ABA TOUT MOUN KI TRAYI HAITI, ABA TOUT KOLON DJOL BOKIE, ABA OKIPASYION, VIV HAITI, VIV LIBETE, VIV 1804.....
PEP LA AP KONNIN SA POUL FE, SAN DESSALINE NAN GIN POU MONTE NAN VIN NOU. MWIN PAP DIRIJE ANKIN PATI POLITIK. AK AMPIL TRISTES MAP TANDE YON SOI DIZAN LIDE AP DEFAN FRANSE KONT PEYI DHAITI LITA SIPOZE AP DEFAN! KA NOU GRAV, FOK SA SISPAN. MWIN PRAN POSISYON PANM KON OKIPASYION E MANDE FRANSE KITE HAITI.
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Message posted by Dman on May-12-2004 at 12:58am - IP Logged
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fok nou uni poun so epeyi a
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Message posted by Patati Patata on May-12-2004 at 6:04pm - IP Logged
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Nadine: Why should missionaries leave? I do not understand that part of the statement; afterall they are the one that are feeding the majority of the Haitian people. I do not see you doing anything for the Haitian people. Let the missionaries do they job.
Oh my god! Bonje! Gade ou pawol! Is there internet conection on Pluto, cause thats where you must be to make such an outrageous, out landish, obsurd statement like "missionaries are feeding the majority of the Haitian people", im sorry Nadine, But that is probably the most way out statement that Ive ever heard. A statement like that is an insult that can only be founded in supreme ignorence. Your definately out of step and out of touch with the times.
So you mean to tell me that Haitians are not resourceful atttalll/0/. So we are just a bunch of Zombies laying down in the middle of the street, and were only revived once a missionary arives at the Air-Port with some shefpor-yourdi or some Captain Crunch. The Haitians in the United States that send almost a B I L L I O N a year to their familys in Haiti get absolutely no credit what so ever...none! The Haitians who do have a job and work in hotels, factories, restauraunts, strip clubs, the bank, rent-a-car, video store, movie theatre, grocery store, sell weed, work at the Air-Port, beg at the Air-Port in Haiti ,ex. Get absolutely no credit in your eyes! Bonje! Gade'w injistice! So you telling me that the couple of hundred missionarys in Haiti are feeding the majority of the 8 million people in Haiti. No, no, no..ou araje. You need to change your mentality...you and Mr. Foley. Ou gen le gen foly foley. The people that have been robbing from us have no right to tell us to change our mentality...it's like I hide my money under my matress, you come and steal it, then tell me I should keep it behind the microwave, motherfuccer, give me my money back.
Nadine get in touch, and please, please, please, im begging you, please give the Haitian people some credit, just a little bit, I know the missionarys are pretty to you, and have blond hair and blue eyes, but please find it in your heart to give us some credit for our own existance.
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Message posted by Nadine on May-12-2004 at 6:53pm - IP Logged
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Patati Patata, I was exagerating to make a point. Yes, Haitians work very hard to buy food to eat and take care of their many children. I have to say that I do not give Haitian people a lot of credit, afterall we are to a certain extent responsible for our misery. My point is that the missionaries are doing a good job bring humanitarian relief to the country. They should stay. I am not sure about the UN armed forces lead by Brasil, I need to do a little more research on countries that such plan has worked or failed before I can have an opinion. Another thing Patati Patata, I am sure you and I (and other people who participate in this site) have the same goal for Haiti, which is to become a prosperous nation. So just because we differ on issues do not make me out of touch with the reality of Haiti.
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