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      Ethel Kennedy leads U.S. congressional delegation on fact finding mission to Haiti
Thu Jan 23,11:17 AM ET

By MICHAEL NORTON, Associated Press Writer

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - Leading a U.S. congressional delegation, Ethel Kennedy arrived in Haiti Thursday to investigate how the withholding of foreign aid has deepened despair in the impoverished nation.

The widow of Robert Kennedy and Rep. Donna Christensen, a Democrat from the U.S. Virgin Islands; Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a Democrat from Illinois; Rep. Diane Watson a Democrat from California; and Todd Howland, director of the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Human Rights will spend two days meeting with politicians, religious leaders and banking officials.

On Friday, they plan to meet with President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

The group will also visit an AIDS  clinic run by Harvard medical-school professor Paul Farmer in Cange, on Haiti's Central Plateau district.

Farmer directs Partners in Health, a non-governmental health care organization. Loune Viaud, the strategic director of his AIDS clinic, won the Robert F. Kennedy 2002 Human Rights Award.

Kennedy said she came to honor the work of the clinic and Viaud, and to visit Aristide, who she called "an old friend." She also said she would seek out more U.S. government "engagement" to help Haitians.

The group will "investigate the impact of the embargo on the poor," said Haiti's foreign press liaison officer Michelle Karshan.

Farmer and Viaud have been outspoken in their criticism of the suspension of foreign aid that followed controversial May 2000 legislative elections, which the opposition denounced as rigged.

In September, the Organization of American States, citing deepening poverty, urged international financial institutions to normalize their relations with Haiti, but no funds have been released.

Some US$149 million in Inter-American Development Bank loans for health, water, education, and rural road rehabilitation already ratified by Haiti's Parliament will not be released until Haiti clears some US$20 million in interest arrears, IDB officials say.

The United States has never suspended its $50 million aid package to Haiti, but it is disbursed only to non-governmental organizations. (That is the 1st time I have heard this.)




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             http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/tavis/20030103.tavis.05.ram

 

OMG!! 

No wonder I can't get my husband here!!!

 



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  To all interested;

   Nothing will come out of that fact finding mission.  The Kennedy Center, the Black Caucus, the Caribbean countries, and various members of the US legislature  have already expressed their displeasure with the financial embargo against Haiti.

 The effects of that embargo on the country and its population have been documented, reported, and is known by all involved.

 George Bush wants to remove Aristide or force him to make substantial concessions to the US(IRI) created and backed opposition.  He is determined and will not listen to any left wing coalition pleading for sanity. The US will not allow the Haitian masses to have control of their future.

Aristide has three choices;   1) Ignore Bush and his opposition and try to accomplish as much as possible until the end of his term.  2) Make a behind closed door deal that will allow him to save face with his supporters and make enough concessions to move things forward.     3) Do a Duvalier; let the popular organizations destroy the fake opposition, assume full control, and bring stability. Use the double threat of drugs and refugees, while negotiating directly with Washington.   Americans have no love for Haitians and will do what is practical,  politicaly expedient, and in their best interest.

While I do see the danger in choice #3 of a possible return to a dictatorship, I still see it as an acceptable path.  After all, many dictators have improved the well being of their people and move their economies forward.  The right to eat precedes the right to vote.  Haiti has democrats, aspiring dictators, fascists, liberals, socialists, communists, capitalists, and others. What it needs are NATIONALISTS and PATRIOTS.

The one thing Aristide MUST NOT DO is step down.  Haitians have to get used to elected people finishing their terms.  When there is a violation of the law or of the constitution, the judicial authorities should be the enforcers.

In this early stage of our democracy, symbolism is very important.

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Congratulations Kreyolbro! . You have just put your signature on the death of democracy in our country. Do you have any idea how many Haitians died for the concept of democracy in Haiti? You should be really proud of yourself as an Haitian. I had to respond to your post even though I did not have to. I just felt so sad that a fellow Haitian knowing the history of our country and its people could write down such a thing. I am so ashamed!!! No wonder Haitians are living this situation right now... it is because of people like you. There is no hope for Haiti.


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kreyolbro yo reflechi sa yo parle la reli reply et reflechi pou dit si yo vraiment Haitien native natal

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In a country where corruption runs rampant, a dictatorship in Haiti would further multiply the numerous problems that the haitian people have already.  It is not as if these dictators have the intentions of the haitian people in mind.  What they do have in mind is maintaining a stronghold of their power as well as continuing to accumulate (steal) what little funds this republic has.  A dictatorship would devastate Haiti.    

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Just my opinion...

What does Haiti have now? Besides a elected offical? the similarities are very close.. Keep them dumb and hungry so you can Rule!



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You must ask yourself this question, who is keeping the haitian people dumb and hungry? 


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  CORRECTION FOLKS:   The Haitian people may be poor, hungry, and not school educated, but one thing they are not is DUMB.  They understand better what is going on in Haiti and the World than the average American or Haitian-American.  That is why they voted overwhelmingly for one of theirs; Aristide.  That is also why in spite of the hardships, most of them want him to finish his term.

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 Kreyolbro you are correct the term is ignorant not dumb I stand corrected.

 jbagelais is this were you tell me it is all the American's fault Haiti is starving?

please don't missunderstand me I have great respect for Haiti. I just want some honest answers here.



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