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Subject Topic: Roads in Haiti Post Reply Post New Topic
Message posted by Guest on October-16-2003 at 2:54pm - IP Logged
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 Ti Bob come on  man se Lapired Louverture what are you saying ? Those national roads  need to be build by the government . Jeremie is  situated on the the coast. We could have major resorts in Pestel, build nice beaches there. I am not even from Jeremie, I was born  in Port-au-Prince , my family is from Diribonite (joke) L'artibonite  why should regional preferentialsm  resentment be an issue. This for all Haitians. Aristide and his cronies can go to hell. By the way I just heard that Andy Apaid a  Lebanese-Haitian is  telling people he has no presidential aspirations, he was  born in the  US.Haiti's contitution prohibits him from becoming President.What the hell is all this? Let's get back to the roads  everybody  we need to start mobilization now put all those cannots aside.

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Lapired Louverture, please register. You're killing my brain having to look for your identity through your posts. Registration is free the last time I checked!

Anyway, we can't just go in and start building roads like that. There're processes and necessary permissions. I can help with all of that since I have a 'few feet' on the ground for that. I'm sure others can help in that sense too. We're the private sector, we can't just jump in like that.

The country is legally ill, let's not make matters worse while trying to improve things. Respect is the first thing we should always arm ourselves with.

I'm opting for complementary work rather than replacement activities. We don't have the financial muscle for that anyway. Let's focus on maintaining the national roads. (When I said maintenance, I don't mean BALE, WOUZE ... some national roads need mad miles-long repair!) The task isstill a heavy burden.

If you're all set for that, we can start moving our resources toward that accomplishment. I'm dead serious on this; I would love to start ACTING.



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Tibob,  I am all set also and would love to start acting.  Please tell us about your plans.

kreyolbro@aol.com

 


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Well, kreyol, my bro, if everybody's down with the idea, I can have a few officials in Haiti contacted so we can get in touch with the committee or unit in charge of maintenance of the national roads (yes, there's one, believe it or not).

We will then get from them written proposals and course of actions with pricing and other info they have. Then we will request an assessment on the current state of the national roads. With that kind of backbone data, we will form a team including ourselves, volunteers (here and in Haiti) and members of that faction of the government to develop a clear plan and course of action.

We will also have to obtain legal papers to operate on 'public' premises. I have resources I can mobilize to get the full specs.



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Tibob;

You have won me over with that direct plan of action.  We have always asked others for a plan, and you actually have one. Count me in brother.  While you are doing all that networking and laying down the groundwork, what can we do on our side or on this site? 

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Count me in, where are we getting the fund?

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kreyolbro and tijou, you know money is a sensitive issue. I would love for us to find PIONEERS of that movement, first on this site; then elsewhere. Let's avoid to have a million 'founders'.

With 10-15 solid and serious members, we can lay out our plans of action to account for the thousands that will sympathize with our objective. I suggest we use the PM (private ...) on this site to have the actual info on people behind the usernames (kreyolbro n ap kontre yon jou). Until we do that, we will be all lip service.

We shouldn't discuss technicalities and resources here for all reasons we can think of. I will make some phone calls over the next week, but first I want real people behind this real initiative to not mobilize resources for nothing.



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 Ti Bob ,  se  Lapired Louverture , now we are are moving .Report to us on your conatcts in Haiti. Pascal we need your support  for this .I am to call the Haitian radio program next Sunday, and Tuesday. Kreyolbro, you know some Haitians don't use the internet or don't have acess to it so we need massive support for this to work.We don't want a million founders, we need a million stakeholders who care. We have to start  a commitee to establish a course of plan.By having a foundation we can request grants from corporations and non-profits and we could fundraised the rest. 15 commitee members can not do this alone,they should the face  with some actively managing  the project, Haitians troughout the US  could pitch in, but we need at 500 volunteers  for it  to take off. Like I said stay away from national roads because  that's the government's job .You don't see the Federal Highway Commission letting projects handdled by private hands over here. We need to focus on a region to develop it .If you don't agree suggest  another location but I foresee problems with the National Roads.The government does not run to be seen like it is run by private hands.Call up senators,deputes, mayors, Traveaux Public, those are the people you want to deal with. If you say your are trying to build a road in their region,they will get you governmental support.

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 Ti Bob ,  se  Lapired Louverture , now we are are moving .Report to us on your conatcts in Haiti. Pascal we need your support  for this .I am to call the Haitian radio program next Sunday, and Tuesday. Kreyolbro, you know some Haitians don't use the internet or don't have acess to it so we need massive support for this to work.We don't want a million founders, we need a million stakeholders who care. We have to start  a commitee to establish a course of plan.By having a foundation we can request grants from corporations and non-profits and we could fundraised the rest. 15 commitee members can not do this alone,theyshould be the face of the project with some actively managing  the project, Haitians troughout the US  could pitch in, but we need at 500 volunteers  for it  to take off. Like I said stay away from national roads because  that's the government's job .You don't see the Federal Highway Commission letting projects handdled by private hands over here. We need to focus on a region to develop it .If you don't agree suggest  another location but I foresee problems with the National Roads.The government does not run to be seen like it is run by private hands.Call up senators,deputes, mayors, Traveaux Public, those are the people you want to deal with. If you say your are trying to build a road in their region,they will get you governmental support.The reason I think Jeremie is an ideal location is because they are on the South Coast, have the   a good density population, , have places that be turned into Montego Bay like Pestel, would increase commerce between Jeremie and other towns beside Port-au -Prince, we want to decentralize it  not  move everything towards it.Local cuture could be revived , more trees can be planted there to protect our ecosystem.If you still insist on National roads , send in your reasons or if you have another location let us know.

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I love the Idea,

Please count Haitian101 in.



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