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Subject Topic: HAITI’S RACIAL TENSIONS Post Reply Post New Topic
Message posted by kreyolbro on January-07-2004 at 9:39pm - IP Logged
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Les profondes inégalités sociales ravivent les tensions raciales  Deep social inequalities reviving racial tensions in Haiti.
Port-au-Prince de notre envoyé spécial Le Monde, 3 janvier 2004

Face à la popularité croissante des opposants dans les médias étrangers, les proches du président Jean-Bertrand Aristide ont décidé de lancer une contre-offensive.  Faced with the mounting popularity of its opponents in the foreign press, the Aristide government has decided to launch a counter-offensive.

La ministre de la culture d'Haïti, Lilas Desquiron, cherche ainsi à casser l'image des leaders de l'opposition qui, selon elle, appartiennent à une élite économique et culturelle complètement coupée du peuple haïtien : "Ces gens-là méprisent les petites gens. Lorsque notre gouvernement a fait voter une loi donnant au culte vaudou le statut de religion à part entière, au même titre que les autres, cette petite élite très catholique est devenue enragée. Ils haïssent tout ce qui est populaire et d'origine africaine, ils n'apprécient que ce qui vient d'Occident. Je n'ai rien contre la culture occidentale, c'est aussi la mienne, mais il ne faut pas l'utiliser comme instrument d'exclusion."
Haiti's Minister of Culture Lilas Desquiron sees the situation this way; The leaders of the opposition are part of a cultural and economic elite completely disconnected from the Haitian people.  They have nothing but contempt for the average Haitian.  When our government granted to the Vaudou faith the same rights given to other religions, this tiny very Catholic elite became enraged.  They hate our popular culture or anything that reflects the country's African heritage while they idolize everything from the West.  I have nothing against Western culture, it is also mine after all, but we cannot use it to exclude or discriminate against the majority. 

Lilas Desquiron décrit ses adversaires comme des grands patrons à l'ancienne, rigides et arrogants : "En quelque sorte, ils disent au peuple haïtien : "La récréation est finie, nous reprenons les choses en main." Ils ont réussi à entraîner dans leur aventure les étudiants de Port-au-Prince, souvent issus de familles modestes, mais leurs propres enfants ne sont pas ici, ils font leurs études à l'étranger. Ils ont aussi empêché la tenue d'élections législatives, car ils savent qu'ils les perdraient. En revanche, le gouvernement souhaite des élections dès 2004, sous la surveillance d'observateurs internationaux."
Lilas Desquiron describes her adversaries as members of the old social regime, arrogant and rigid in their views.  " Their message to the Haitian masses is "The party is over, we are taking control again".   They have managed to enroll in their crusade the students of Port-au-Prince, most from families of modest means, while their own children are studying safely overseas.  Cognizant of their inability to win, they have also refused to allow legislative elections to take place.  The government on the other hand has been pushing for elections under international scrutiny.

La ministre de la culture affirme que les intellectuels ont lâché M. Aristide, après l'avoir soutenu au départ, quand ils se sont aperçus qu'ils ne pourraient pas le manipuler à leur guise : "Aristide incarne la montée au pouvoir du petit peuple, pour la première fois depuis la guerre d'indépendance. Il veut rendre à la majorité noire sa dignité. En même temps, il ne juge jamais personne sur la couleur de sa peau."
According to the Minister of Culture, many intellectuals, unable to manipulate Mr. Aristide, have distanced themselves from the President whom they had supported at the beginning.  "Aristide symbolizes the first time since Independance that the masses have had a say in who should run the country.  He wants to bring a certain amount of dignity to the black majority. At the same time, he judges no one based solely on skin color."


Les militants des partis hostiles au président haïtien, qui semblent parcourir la ville à la recherche de journalistes étrangers, abordent le même sujet à leur façon. Deux femmes d'âge mûr, se présentant comme des directrices d'école, sont conscientes d'appartenir à l'élite économique et culturelle : "Les gens qui font tourner ce pays, qui créent des emplois et des richesses, sont tous contre Aristide. Il ne tiendra plus très longtemps, on ne peut pas gérer un pays en s'appuyant sur les illettrés, les miséreux et les gangs. Mais nous ne sommes pas isolés. Regardez les manifestations, de plus en plus de gens pauvres et de jeunes des quartiers défavorisés nous rejoignent, et ils se sentent bien avec nous."   The militants hostile to the president have a different take on the socio-racial implications of this crisis.  Two middle aged women, both school directors, admit to belonging to the economic and cultural elite and see it this way; " The people who make this country work, who create jobs and wealth, are all against Aristide. He won't be able to hold on much longer, one can't run a country by relying on the illiterates, the poor, and the gangs.   But we are not isolated.  Look at the people protesting; more and more you see the poor, the youth from the disadvantaged neighborhoods joining us and feeling quite at ease walking with us"

Une jeune mère de famille, qui se décrit comme une ancienne collaboratrice de Jean-Bertrand Aristide passée à "l'opposition radicale", aborde sans détours le problème racial : "Le président exalte sans arrêt les racines africaines du peuple haïtien, qu'il oppose, sans le dire carrément, aux mulâtres descendant des colons français ou d'immigrants européens. En quelques années, il a ravivé un vieux problème qui avait commencé à s'estomper. Moi, j'ai la peau très claire - comme madame Desquiron, d'ailleurs -, et parfois c'est devenu un problème. Quand je circule dans les quartiers pauvres, des passants m'insultent, donnent des coups de poing sur ma voiture. Pour eux, je suis une riche, ils veulent me reprendre tout ce que mes ancêtres ont soi-disant volé aux leurs." A young mother and a self proclaimed ex-partisan of President Aristide now with the radical opposition held back no punches when addressing the racial issue. "The president constantly praises and exalts the African roots of the Haitian people in contrast to the French and European heritage of the mulato minority.  In a few years, he has managed to bring back the color issue which was starting to disappear.  Me; I am very light skinned, just like Ms Desquiron, and that has become a problem.  When I ride through a poor neighborhood, people sometimes insult me or hit my car with their fists.  In their eyes, I am wealthy, and they want to take back from me everything they claim my ancestors stole from theirs."

"Je m'étais installée à l'étranger, poursuit-elle, et je suis revenue au pays parce que je croyais qu'Aristide allait vraiment changer les choses, mais il nous a trahis. Je ne peux plus travailler ici, j'ai reçu des menaces très évidentes. Je pars m'installer au Canada dans trois mois avec ma famille. Sauf si Aristide tombe : dans ce cas, je reste."  " I moved back to Haiti, she continues, because I believed Aristide would bring real changes to the country; but he betrayed all of us.  I can't work here, I have received direct threats. I plan on moving to Canada in three months with my family.  Only if Aristide falls will I stay."
 HPN - Article No. 20040105211556

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That is simply ridiculous...how does an overwhelming black majority allows a tiny tiny tiny unarmed minority to screw up a country for 200 years.

There must be something wrong with blacks.



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i didn't understand the last part of the thread.  Why did madame Desquiron feel that Aristide let her down?  The mulattos, syriens or bourgeois however they call themselves are the one who wants Aristide to leave more than anything.  They're the one who feels that too many dark skin people have money like them.  Too many of them are circulating in the street of Petion-ville like them, driving the same cars, having their own business. 



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Tijou, the last three paragraphs deal with quotes from the anti-Aristide camp.    It's the light skinned mother who feels betrayed by Aristide, not Ms Desquiron.

 



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Besides a couple of rulers in the 1900s, I never remember any of the rulers being mulatto. They were all black and Haitians of all skin colors have been f**ked over by each president, not because the love of the elite, but because of the love of money.

We have to move pass this skin color issue, it goes deeper than that. It's about a country that's never had a stable government- and never will if we continue to point fingers at Americans and the Elite. There is no work in Haiti, no security, almost no good roads and schools are being shut down all over because of manifestations. Let's not get sidetracked!

By the way, it wasn't only the elite Catholics that protested the legalization of Vodou. Christians from every SES status protested it.


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they don't have to be in the national palace to mess things up...they have the economic power to do it.  Don't point fingers?  who do you think started and funded this whole opposition which forced the lavallas supporters to react and now we have this impasse.    Who do you think blocked the government from borrowing so no improvements can be made...yes the elite and the US.

that was the plan all along...starve the Aristide administration and the people and things will turn in their favor.   the people defending the elected presidential mandate need to arm themselves and fight these people with fire...yes a war is what they are looking for...give it to them......the masses should fight to the death for they have nothing to loose......".koupe tet boulez caye" we need to complete bois cayiman...only then can the true Haitians progress.... 

 



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Antichrist, I totaly agree with u,we have to kill to death all f**king tiny remaining mullatos in haiti,papa doc started in jeremie,jacmel,but wasn't fully completed.

yes the f**king mullatos have the country's wealth under their hands while the majority is starving in extreme porverty.

majority of haitians has to remember it was the mullato alexandre petion who killed Dessalinnes at pont-ronge 17 octobre 1806 by plotting with the other mullato gerin.

because dessalinnes wanted the mojority black to enjoy the country's and at the same time the minority mullatos.

but petion(mullato) didn't like that proposal and killed dessalinnes and since then this is how the first coup d'etat begins in haitian history,Dumarsais estime,always overthrawn by the minority.

today in 21 st century that's the same like Andy Apaid f**king light minority  who leads anti-government protest angainst aristide who himself elected by popular vote(majority).

 in 1990 first democratic election under UN supervision,they lost the political power,but still having the economic power,thats aristide is fighting for the mass pep like he said january 1st(moun ki anba ap resi monte pou al jwenn sa ki anwo.)

to conclude haitians all over the world and in haiti we have to mobilize and unify us to oust this f**king tiny minority from the economic previlege.

if in case aristide has a (tet femal) Im black haitian in the us navy, I will go down there and other blacks to kill those remaining mullatos for ever in the upper so-called petion-ville.

                        neg jeremi.100% black.

                              viv Dessalinnes,viv Aristide 5ans


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Pananranse, i agree with most of your post, BUT why use the word kill?  Not all mullato feel the same ,and you know something some dark Haitian living in Haiti think they're part of the mullato, why, because they have a few dollars more than the rest.  You would be schock to see how Haiti is divided.  If things doesn't change for the better in the next months to come,  It will not be a pretty picture at all. 

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Something needs to be done in Haiti ASAP, and I don't think pointing fingers is the way to do it. 

I really could care less about the color of the person that can bring Haiti out of its current situation. 

I also find it odd that the government screams that the mulattoes are against are damn near evil, and their first lady is a mulatto!

Just my humble opinion.............

 


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The first lady is what? a mulatto?  How?  What is mulatto to you folks?

 



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