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Message posted by Guest on May-14-2004 at 8:02pm - IP Logged
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 What a pity,the killed in Iraq no w the are doing it in Haiti.

AU-PRINCE, Haiti - Relatives wailed in grief over two people shot by American troops as anger grew over the U.S.-led peacekeeping operation, with some Haitians on Saturday demanding the United States return ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Aristide, in exile in the Central African Republic since Feb. 29, was to fly to Jamaica on Monday to be reunited with his daughters, who stayed in New York during the upheaval. He has claimed he was forced out by the U.S. government.

A delegation of American and Jamaican officials - including Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif. - left Miami Saturday night in a chartered jet to bring Aristide to Jamaica.

The flight was expected to land in the Central African Republic on Sunday afternoon. Aristide was scheduled to arrive in Jamaica on Monday morning.

Haiti's new prime minister, Gerard Latortue, has warned that Aristide's return to the region would only increase tension in Haiti, and said he would not meet with the ousted leader.

U.S. Ambassador to Haiti James Foley said Saturday that "Jamaican authorities are certainly taking on a risk and a responsibility" by accepting Aristide.

Meanwhile, U.S. Marines said the two men killed late Friday during a patrol were gunmen who had previously fired on the Marines, although their weapons were never recovered. Witnesses said the dead were bystanders.

"The Marines have very strict engagements of a target," Maj. Richard Crusan said. "Did they hit other people? I doubt it."

Relatives of 18-year-old Frantzy Louis wailed and hugged each other at his tin shack home in Belair. Looking at pictures of him, they said he wouldn't have been holding a gun.

"He was playing basketball when the Americans and the French began firing," said Louis' brother, 24-year-old Rudy. "He wasn't political. All he did was study and play basketball."

Residents identified the other victim as Dread Pasteur, 29, and said it was possible more than two people were killed in the gunbattle.

Several people also were injured in Friday's gunbattle. One was Evans Dubuisson, 17, who said he was shot in the side after crossing the street to buy candles for his family.

Residents said it was the first time they had seen the U.S. troops enter the gritty neighborhood, blocks away from the National Palace, at night. Since Aristide left the country, residents here haven't had electricity or water, and trash piles have reached heights of more than 10 feet.

Also Saturday, gunfire broke out in the seaside slum of Cite Soleil. Residents said the fight began when two gangs began arguing over a shipment of donated rice and flour. At least one man and two children were wounded, witnesses said.

The sprawling shantytown is a pro-Aristide stronghold where tensions persist between some of its several gangs. Crowds ran from the streets as the gunfire erupted, then emerged again as young men with pistols and rifles sped off in pickups to investigate. Police rarely venture into the slum, and some gang leaders say they are trying to keep the peace.

Initially the Marines and French peacekeepers were sent to secure key sites and provide security. Their mission has changed, however, and now they are working with Haitian police to disarm the general population. U.S. troops have shot and killed at least six Haitians in the past week.

The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard Myers, arrived Saturday to get a closer look at the operation.

He visited U.S. troops at their barracks, shaking hands with Marines. But he did not talk with Haitian officials.

At a news conference, he said: "As far as Aristide's return to the region is concerned, if that increases the violence here, then that would be extremely unhelpful."

He said the United States would not take sides in Haiti, but warned the Marines had the right to defend themselves.

The violence is the biggest challenge facing Latortue, the new prime minister who was sworn in Friday.

Aristide claims he is still the legitimate leader of Haiti, and that the U.S. government forced him out. U.S. officials say Aristide asked for help and that they saved his life by arranging his departure aboard a U.S.-chartered aircraft during a bloody rebellion.

Jamaican Prime Minister P.J. Patterson, the chairman of the Caribbean Community, invited Latortue to visit Jamaica this weekend for talks. But Robert Ulysse, an aid to Latortue, said the prime minister would stay in Haiti and focus on setting up his Cabinet.

Also Saturday, 10 Dominicans taken hostage by Haitians along the two countries' border were freed after the Dominican government released a Haitian investigated for the killing of two Dominican soldiers.

The two Dominican soldiers were killed Feb. 14 as Haitian militants living in the Dominican Republic crossed the border to join the rebellion in Haiti.


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Nothinmg will be done till we understand the importance of LOVE, to love one another. Hate, revenge, discrimation, lost of self estime, pride dignity, selfishness and greed are part of the reason our people are suffering in Haiti. The country is divided the econmic elite, intellectuals and the foreign descents don't give a danm about Haiti and the Haitian masses. They only come together when their business and priviledges are threatening. No real efforts are been made to better the life of the Haitian people. Instead of trying to reconcile and lead the country in the right direction the "leaders" are spreading exclusion, discrimation and failed to defend and protect Haiti's interest.

Before blaming the foreign troops we must blame ourselves. No foreign troops, white or black will truly help us if we don't help ourselve first. We consider the poors and uneducated masses inferior that their life have no meaning. The ruling classe message of Haiti is clear; its ok to kill them, they are chimeres, Lavalas suporters. Do you expect the foreigners, specially racist descents of colononizers to treat you right when those who suppose to help and protect the Haitians look down on them.

French troops in Haiti in 2004 is very bad, what a shame. It is also very sad to hear our Prime Minister's comment on the Restitution. We need to change our attitude toward each other.

French troops must get the out of Haiti right away. Long Life Haiti 

 



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Dman said: it's okay to kill them,they are chimers, Lavalas supporters.' What kind of rationale is that? That is called babarism. It sounds like cold blooded murders to me. If that did really happen, that particular country needs to get its troops, and get the Hell out.

They are chimeres, Lavalas supporters. So what? In the Western's Civilization, we don't use machine guns on people just for their beliefs. That shouldn't be a surprise, if the Americans Troops are doing the killings; they're cold-blooded killers. Fortunately, it seems that they're not going be around in the next mission. that's a very good thing.

Troops from France, Canada, and Brezil should stay as long as possible Those countries are among the countries, we called 'Haiti's Traditional Friends' meaning their friendship is inseparable. So, get a grip!  Real Haitians should know their History.

American Troops should get the heck out of Haiti right away. They are not needed.

 



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Oh No my friend don't do that . Please go back read carefully what I wrote. No confusion the Americans are not going to start and run leaving Haiti in a mess and France to fulfill its dream. As concerned citizens (registered voters) we demand that the US stay around. President Bush can not run away from his responsability toward Haiti. My friend racism is alive and well in the US but we still have better relationship with the US than France. We are Americans.

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lol...  lol...lol   when great minds meet...lol

 


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Quote: Originally posted by NIGGER on May-17-2004

 

lol...  lol...lol   when great minds meet...lol

 


I understand very well. I have been through most of the messages posted over the weekend and decided: J'en ai assez. Kote moun sa yo soti? Moreover while channel surfing yesterday, I thought I saw a "Turtle" interview where he states that: "the locals could learn the value of hard work from the Diaspora." I need to know exactly what was said. If you can find out I would appreciate it; as I know his fat ass most likely has never done a hard day's work.

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Respect all life; Reject violence; Share with others; Listen to understand; Preserve the planet; Rediscover solidarity. Peace is in our hands.

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Very funny



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it is sad what happen in Haiti . it is fine to be angrey .i am tired of critic it going to be the same . it's better for Haiti to become communist at list you will find a different vew point . Haitian keep going aroound the circle it time to try something different

 


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Dman wrote:President Bush cannot run away from responsibility toward Haiti"

Verrrrrry funny! Lost me again buddy! I didn't know that George Bush had any resposibility toward haiti. Pa gen blan ki doué nou an-yin. Solution péy -a , sé pa nan min étrnagé li-yé

It really saddens me to see that a lot of Haitians still don't get it. Knock, knock, wake up to smell the coffee. Blan nan Washington yo don't want Haiti to succeed. Got it? They want to keep Thomas Jefferson's dream alive.  That is: to confine those pests to that Island'

Thomas Jefferson was the president at the time when Haiti had declared its Independence; And that was how he(Jefferson) reacted. And you look at the Record, they   have been to do just that.

 
 


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Mwin Konin Ke Se Franse Yo Ki Dwe Haiti Paske Yo Te Piye Tout Sa Nou Te Giyin.

Min Prezidan Bush Te Odone Marines Pou Rantre En Haiti, Sevis Spesial Etazini Tre Aktif Nan Zafe Politik Peyi DHaiti.

Donk Se Nan Sans Sa Mwin Di Bush Pa Ka Kouri Kite Peyi a Nan Deran. Pezidan Bush Ap Pwoteje Djob Li, Eleksyion Pral Fet En Novanm.

Oui Se Franse Yo Kite Vole Bien Papa Nou. Fok Milite Franse Yo Kite Haiti Pou Tounin Lakay Yo. 



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